"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Needy, Clingy, Dependent Women.....

bmp2cpm

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A couple of questions for all of you:

1) From reading this forum for many years, most guys' advice on needy, clingy, dependent women is to run away from them

2) Are not needy, clingy, dependent women the exact opposite of independent, feminists?

3) By avoiding 5-stage clingers, are we as men indirectly promoting feminism?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Scaramouche

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Dear BMP2,
They make excellent plate material...Yes they are the opposite of Feminists,perhaps the realists in this Womens World!
 

hockeyfreak79

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A lot of woman all masters at disguising their insecurities. Do your best to screen & weed out. You really have to be a detective or just ask them straight out, but guess what they might lie to you!
Stay away from any woman that has to take anti-depressants or fights with depression! TRUST ME They typically monkey branch from guy to guy & suck them emotionally dry. These broads exist, she may not be needy & clingy but it's still huge red flag. RUN RED FLAG!

Feminism is here to stay & I don't think there is sh*t we can do about it.
 

taiyuu_otoko

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Sheesh....

Forget about worrying about the global implosion of feminism or whatever.

Build up a list of criteria. The kinds of things you want in a woman.

Meet a bunch of women. Keep the one's that fit, eject the one's that don't.

Don't make it too complicated.
 

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Oh you'd be surprised just how needy a feminist can be once you get to know one. I had a fling with a feminist who was in law school. Her attitude was pretty hard core when I met her. Told me she doesn't take sh!t from men, wanted to be a judge to fix the sexist and racist laws of America. For whatever reason she had a soft spot for me. After we started sleeping together she got all soft and lovey dovey and wanted more attention than I could give her. I had to drop her eventually, not just because of her neediness but because of her unwavering adherence to feminism along with her contradicting view that she had a sense of entitlement for a man to take care of her. One time she asked me this - when you marry me will you buy me the biggest diamond ring out of everyone we know? She sent me a long email about how I broke her heart and left voicemails about giving us a chance for a real relationship.

My point? I believe feminism is more of a frame of mind than a personality trait such as neediness and selfishness. So no we're not promoting feminism by avoiding needy women.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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GS750

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needy/clingy/insecure girls are just so draining. constantly having to prop someone up because they have rock bottom self esteem is just not worth it in my opinion. it really gets tiresome and annoying after a while, and they are emotional vampires constantly in need of attention/validation. the more you give the more they take.
 

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The reason to run from needy, clingy women is ultimately you can't possibly meet their increasingly unrealistic expectations.

Those unmet expectations trigger massive drama and BS...
The cycle just repeats itself over and over...

Like GS750 said, draining, a waste of time and money.

Find a happy, healthy woman (which is the opposite of needy/clingy) and have fun.
 

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taiyuu_otoko said:
Sheesh....

Forget about worrying about the global implosion of feminism or whatever.

Build up a list of criteria. The kinds of things you want in a woman.

Meet a bunch of women. Keep the one's that fit, eject the one's that don't.

Don't make it too complicated.
and this...




BondAFC said:
The reason to run from needy, clingy women is ultimately you can't possibly meet their increasingly unrealistic expectations.

Those unmet expectations trigger massive drama and BS...
The cycle just repeats itself over and over...

Like GS750 said, draining, a waste of time and money.

Find a happy, healthy woman (which is the opposite of needy/clingy) and have fun.





Exactly.
 
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