Need thoughts from some other DJ's

[DoctorLW]

First I'd like to say that I haven't been here in a very very long time. I felt that this site didn't really have anything to offer anymore... its just a stepping stone to a) give you confidence (if you don't already have it), and b) understand the way girls minds work. I've also noticed now that "DJing" in a 'by the book' sense doesn't work either. It has the best chance of succeeding with more attractive/more popular girls (which are usually the ones you want to get), but using DJ "tricks" on girls who aren't as popular often is too intimidating for them. At least, this is what it seems to me.

However, since I'm here right now (you'll see why in a minute) I'd figure I would ask if there was anything new I should check out or any new articles similar to the legendary Pook ones (which were a complete blast to read).

In any case, now for why I've poked my head back in here again for the first time in a couple years. Basically I just want a few experienced DJ's to tell me what they think of how I handled this situation I was in last night, I can't judge it myself with a clear head (I'm still furious about it).

So here is the situation:

Background info:

I am a sophomore in college and recently started liking this 'friend' of mine as I got to know her better. She is good friends with a buddy of mine, but I never really got to know her until recently since we all are in a class together that requires a long car ride (plenty of time to get to know someone). To my surprise the girl was much cooler than I expected, she piqued my interest enough that I decided I would start setting things up so I could date her.

This girl could not be a more textbook case of a girl that DJ tactics work on well (This is partially because my college has some pretty tough academic standards so most of the guys here were complete losers in high school. Resulting from this she has guys professing their love for her almost on a weekly basis). However, this girl is a headache at the same time. I'm constantly being tested, and she is good at playing... "the game." I haven't really run into a girl yet that was able to keep me guessing like I am right now (not necessarily a bad thing, it's probably part of why I like her).

I hooked up with her Wednesday, could have done last Friday too but I no sleep the night before and just didn't feel like putting forth that kind of effort.

The Incident:

Last night calls me at 4AM. I'm thinking, "Sweet!" I walk to her apartment which is about a 10 minute walk in the freezing cold. Then I get there and realize something is totally not right. Some guy I have never seen before is there, she isn't chilling with him so I didn't know for sure if I got sucked into some bull**** stint, but I had a gut feeling that it wasn't her room mates who brought this guy there.

Her friend starts talking to me so I use that time to scope the situation out for a few minutes, and realized that it was in fact a stint (the guy was clearly a tool, so not a true threat - the only thing he had going for him was the fact that he was 6'6" or so, but I'm a muscular guy and not so short either at 6'1" so if he even gave me lip I probably would have dropped him on the spot). She also took this moment to move from the couch to go sit next to this guy. Now I'm starting to get exponentially angrier at how ***** this whole deal was. I write her a text message saying "Take out your own trash, then talk to me." I then ask her friend if she has any alcohol or anything that I could drink to make the walk worth my while. Right as I go over to pour myself a drink she yells (her, not her friend) for me to "Get her a cup of water."

ALRIGHT. If I wasn't angry enough yet, that just did it. At this point I couldn't control my anger anymore and just flat out said "No." To which she responds, "What the hell your in my apartment." To which I answered "Fine, then I'll just leave."

And so I left, made the long cold walk again, but this time in a much much different mood.

So here is where I would like some thoughts from all you fellas.

A) How would you say I handled this? She did get me to walk all the way over there for nothing. She also succeeded in making me pissed off, but I honestly don't know how anyone could keep calm in that situation.

B) Where do I go from here?
I really don't see many options. I'm still ticked off as all hell, pretty much to the point where I don't know if I want to date her anymore anyway. For some reason I think a lot of you are going to say, "Forget this *****." Yeah, your probably right and unforunately it may have to be the course of action. But that would really suck because like I said before, my college has high academic standards so a good amount of the girls are complete losers too. A lot of the hot ones don't even go out on the weekends. The ones that do tend to be so slutty that they are even beyond considering double-wrapping. I thought it was great that I finally found a girl that was attractive, could keep her legs closed, and had a decent head screwed on her shoulders (or so i thought until last night...)

Is there any way to coax an apology out of her? What do I do now? Remain pissed off - or act unphased? Personally I think her little act was so dirty that I probably wouldn't be able to act unphased anyway though.

Thanks for enduring this lengthy post, and thanks in advance for your comments.

 

[DoctorLW]

bump

I know it is long, but its not that bad. Please let me know what you guys think.

Thanks.

 

[DoctorLW]

appreciate the no replies .

in any case, i decided to forget the *****.

thanks anyways.

peace fellas.

 

[Desdinova]

I'll respond for the hell of it.

I know how it is when you go to a chick's place and there's some other dude there. Happened to me once. I went to pick up this chick for a date, and there's some dude named Tom there. Right away I got a bit defensive and figured I'd bail if he tags along on our date. She met this dude through telephone personals which also added to my defensiveness, but she told me he's "just a friend".

I know it's hard not to jump to conclusions, but you gotta evaluate the guy and the situation between her and this guy before you make rash decisions. If you want to know, I got further than Tom ever did

Right as I go over to pour myself a drink she yells (her, not her friend) for me to "Get her a cup of water."

Okay, I don't blame you for getting pissed about this. You're not her fvcking slave. I would have said "get it yourself!" Women who get to know me very quickly know that I won't put up with their 5hit. I usually relay the message through stories about my personal experiences. In the beginning, women can read between the lines very well.

 

[Donald Kaufman]

It was a test and by the standards she set; you failed it.

4am? Set the trap.

Some guy? Test.

You get angrier and angrier but do nothing? Fail

It seems like you also failed by your own standards.

She caught you off guard and you had nothing. Even with a little time to think about it and nothing invested it's hard to think of a really good response.

The best I've come up with in a similar experience is to adopt a "ooh, I've walked in to the middle of a play, whatever will happen next"

Puts the ball back in her court and she probably doesn't have a second move planned except to make you angrier. The time I caught on the fastest she ended up getting angry because I couldn't stop laughing at her awkwardness. The only reason I caught on fast enough and was able to pull it off believably was because she had tried similar things before and I didn't care. That I was even there was sad.

What to do now? I'm not the quickest to say this but cut your losses. Or, if you are really bored and don't mind her trashing you behind your back, have some fun at her expense.

 

[Andromax]

I personally think you did okay.


4am visists often = a s s, so test or not I probably woulda gone to see what she wants, depending on our rapport, and considering I didnt have any conflicting plans in the morning.

The dude there, well thats kinda messed up, maybe they were just friends. Its a horrible horrible, horrible thing to be a jealous guy. At the same time, dont be naive. However since you and this girl werent really involved, its kind of innapropriate to be angry at her for having guy friends.

Regardless, it doesnt seem like you let it show too much. She seems like an attention wh0re, and you did right by not fetching her the water.

You also did right by leaving.

I wouldn't be so quick to next her if I were you, though. She may very well want to appease you. You could spin this into a Push/Pull scenario that will make her crazy.

Push/Pull article available here Freakin awesome article featured on the front page.


And geez man, lighten up on the time for responses, we all dont hover over our damn key boards !

 

[MrHarris]

First of all you acted like her tool. She got you out of your warm bed at 4am to walk over to her house only to find another man there.

Secondly she moved to sit next to him.

The third thing is she yelled at you like your her boy and she could control you in front of that other guy.

Then you still want to keep this douche bag?

You must be desperate and in need of psychological abuse.

What do you think that other guys has been doing to her when your not around. Sticking her with his 6'6 guy d*ck thats what.

She wanted to show him that she could have some power over men to and make HIM jealous by bringing you into the picture and ordering YOU around like your HER b*tch.

The only good thing that you did was to leave.

You never should of been a tool to get up at that time to begin with. That is disrespectful of your time and you as a man.

Maybe you should of stayed on this site much longer instead of letting your game slip all these years.

You will probably go crawling back to her since as you said she is such a good catch. It's amazing to me how men will put up with this kind of thing just cause the girl is a 9 or 10 and smart and funny and all that rubbish.

What you do is up to you.

To me if you go back, you should give her your balls in a sack.

I would never speak to that woman again if it were me! And I would never allow myself to get into such a desperate situation where I've put a woman like that up in the air like she was an angel or something.