Need some real DJ help.

[felony]

Guys I need some help,

OK I rarely ask for help here, perhaps I use this forum more as an opportunity to let some thoughts fly or as a sounding board but really this time I need some input.

I’m having no trouble getting chicks in clubs etc. But the girl in my college class that I’m interested in is damn hard to get. I’m not sure if I’m playing the game right or what but its just not happening. I’m not intending to get hung up here with any one-it is stuff, yes I’m seeing other women but I want to get this girl. Not to prove I can get her or anything like that, or to have another girl interested in me, but because I genuinely ‘like’ her. I think I would like to try a mid-LTR with her.

So the situation is like this. I’ve known her for almost 2 years. But only got interested in her over the last month. The previous 2 years I don’t think there was any attraction, I probably saw her every second day, but never paided her any attention etc. Then over the last month got slightly more interest… little more EC brief passing comments etc. I’m doing a medical course and its pretty full on study wise. I asked her out about 2 weeks ago, in person not over the phone. She declined saying she had too much study leading up to exams but maybe able to in the holidays.

I said yeah that’s cool no probs. I’m not sure she likes me in that bf/gf way. I’m not sure she knows I like her like that either. After all this I don’t even have her number. I’m not even sure where to take things from now. I have a study break for a week and prolly won’t see her until the following Monday.

She hangs out in a different group of friends, of which I know who they are but don’t really get along that well with. I find it a little tricky to even get time with her at uni…
I know she doesn’t play any games and is pretty blunt about most stuff.

I would like some input, advice, suggestions, tips or things I can try while at uni. Whether it is to increase her interest level , asses or somehow gauge her IL in me, a sure fire way to ask her out or get more of her time. A smart way to grab her number and a date… or whatever. I feel like there isn’t much I can do, and I want to do something! Holidays are in 4 weeks…. I don’t want to have it come down to the last day and say something silly like “hey, still up for going out these hols? What’s ur number so we can hang out”

Much awaiting some useful contributions….

Felony.

 

[Julian]

Forget about her man, if she was interested she would have gone on a date with you from the start.

 

[felony]

argh, i really didn't want to hear that.

take it easy,
felony.

 

[So pimp its scary]

I concur with Julien.

I would also add... try and keep three women in the works at a time. You won't run into these types of problems.

 

[felony]

Pimp, i do have at least three potentials in the works at all times.

It seems to me, that Djs these days don't give chicks any effort unless they are sure bets and getting tonnes of EC, blah blah etc etc.

It as though if a chick doesn't drop to her knees for you instantly she's not worth the effort.

The advice u guys have given is the valid NEXT path.... but seriously, if i was to do the NEXTING any more often then well... i would seriously be running short on chicks i haven't nexted or chicks that wouldn't get a next from me once i meet them.

If i was not to next this one, is there anything i could do to aid/benefit my current situation/position? She isn't the only thing in my life, but since i am going to be at uni wit her for so many years, is there anything i could do i my spare time in relation to her? Other than being the alpha male that i am. lol.

cheers,
felony.

 

[So pimp its scary]

I give a woman plenty of opportunities before I would next them... for me Nexting means more of a stop calling her and let her take the next step. It's basically like a test, once she starts losing ground, I stop initiating contact so, if she really is interested she can make back that ground... I will usually let a woman do this.

I consider that there are three situations with women that you meet :

1) Girls where you have no chance... sadly this is the majority.

2) Girls where you have a chance, but with alot of effort.

3) Girls that are interested in you. The easiest situation.

You will come across girls in the 1) category all the time, and this are the girls that will develop your confidence.

Most of the time though, you are looking for the girls that are in the 3) category because they are least flakey, easier to work with, they are more susceptible to your seduction. It sucks because a lot of the time a women is in the 1) category but leads you to believe that she is in 2), or maybe even 1) and they just wanna play these are where the vast majority of nexting's occur. Regardless, you do want to spend most of your time in with the 1) category, just because it causes less stress in the long run.

The girls that are in the 2) category are what I like to call the challenges. Scoring with one of these girls is like an accomplishment, you will improve your game the most with these types of girls just for the sheer effort involved... you will have to undergo the most shyte tests, flaking, etc. You don't want to focus on these girls too much, because you will burn yourself out.

Also, it is very difficult to take a woman from a 1) to anything else, and is usually not worth the effort. 2)'s can be improved with some work and some tact. But, it's generally alot easier to drop their interest then to improve it.

So 1) 0 risk and 0 reward
2) High risk High reward
3) low risk (at least of getting burned... wear a jimmy hat) but they are also least rewarding, unless they were originally in a different category.