Need some help

[jtlancer]

Hey guys,

Read a lot of material making good progress, would like some
input on a few things:

1. Girls pretending to be on their phone texting -
looking for good openers related to this. This seems to be an
increasing trend so why not take advantage? But all I can
seems to come up with is 'whats up with your phone' or
"do you like your phone"?

2. Kino escalation. I seem to be doing something wrong here.
Read David D's stuff but I'll meet someone, get some
good rap going, kino at the waist to pull them in in a loud
environment, even had her grab my hand and start to dance.
then they seem to get bored and wander off. This has happened
twice. Both times my AFC wanted to chase but the DJ said no.
Once (she was working) I had a good convo but then she got busy.
Seemed like maybe she wanted me to hang until we could talk
again but that seemed like bs afc-ism to me so I bailed
(shes a hostess at a club - at least a nine - but I've never gotten
enough time to get the digits just 5 or 10 seconds at a time,
then attraction builds, then boom work steps in - excuse - I know)

thanks!

 

[jtlancer]

i screw womens daly

OK, great thanks! That was quite useful.
Nice place here.

 

[AtillaTheHun]

Dunno man. I'm tempted to say that women use their phone as a way not to get hit on. Like pretending to be talking to someone when they aren't, but I'm proabbly just being paranoid.

If a woman is texting on her phone, then you could probably start a conversation by asking the time.

 

[Nexus Polaris]

If kino still seems awkward to you, you might want to focus more on developing the proper mindset and less on developing techniques. I never quite fully understood this concept that I'd hear the veterans talk about until I really got the hang of it. Then it suddenly made a lot of sense.

When your mind is in the right place, the rest pretty much just comes naturally. If you're too preoccuppied with what you think you're supposed to be doing, anything you do will be more likely to come off as unnatural and you run the risk of coming across as creepy.

Tyler Durden's Real Social Dynamics program helped me a lot with fixing that stuff. I got way more out of that than I ever did with DeAngelo or any of the other guys (except for maybe Pook).