"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Need some help on closing the deal.

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I've been seeing this girl, we've been on 2 dates. Going for the 3rd one this saturday. First date was dinner and a movie, then after she invited me to her friends party and she introduced me to all her friends. Second date was dinner then a walk at the park. It was pretty nice we were getting along quite well on both dates.

Now I should have kissed her on the second date but I didn't, which I regret. She gave me the signs to do it so I honestly don't know why I didn't. I'm guessing she's interested in me because she talks to one of her friends about me. We also have been txting each other constantly for the past 3 weeks. I asked her out on a third date and she says yes, only if I let her pay. Kind of obvious now, she likes me, her friend also says that she's interested in me. She also calls me awesome all the time and etc. etc.

Question is...how do I close the deal and ask about us and our relationship. Should I talk about us when I see her on Saturday. Should I ask her to be my girlfriend or just ask her to if we could start seeing each other. By the way I've known this girl for a year and a half and we just starting going out 3 weeks ago, I've seen her every weekend for the past month.

I'm not exactly sure how to approach this...If anyone could give any advice I'd appreciate it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Well i wouldn't recommend talking to her about it, that's AFC 101 right there.

Go for the kiss on your next date, demonstrating you're interested will more than give her the hint and probably get her more interested.
 

Ace of Flames

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Err..... you ARE seeing each other... duh.

And you shouldn't be the one to bring up being tied down. It'll chase her off. If she wants to get exclusive with you, she'll let you know. Its only been 3 weeks and 2 dates anyway!! Why do you wanna rush into a relationship so soon?! Calm the fvck down bro.
 

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I wouldn't bring up the aspect of making the relationship exclusive yet. From the sounds of it you haven't even hooked-up or kissed. Move in for the kiss the next time you see her when the opportunity arises, because whether you want to believe it or not a kiss is going to tell you a whole lot about where the relationship could go!

Then you can continue seeing her, and ideally like these other guys said, you want her to be attracted enough to you so that SHE brings up the question of exclusivity.

Now that being said, I've talked to some girls, and they can be really stubborn and not ask about being exclusive 'cause they "aren't sure if the guy wants it and don't want to freak him out by asking." Forget the logical sh*t that is going on in your head and go with what your gut is telling you.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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yeh i think the guys r right here and i think u could develop some oneitis here, which could lead u to becoming desperate and needy. Then again this could be a first experience and maybe u need to experience this for urself. On the kiss by all means go for it.
 

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Don't ask her to be your GF if you have not even kissed.
 

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I'm planning on kissing her on saturday. I've known this girl for about a year and a half and I knew she liked me before but I had a GF. I'm not in a hurry to be in a relationship, but she told one of her friends and they told me, that I was being too slow and I need to step it up. Meh we'll see what happens saturday...
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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K1N said:
...Question is...how do I close the deal and ask about us and our relationship. Should I talk about us when I see her on Saturday. Should I ask her to be my girlfriend or just ask her to if we could start seeing each other. ...
Is all of this so that you can kiss her??? :confused:
 

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You can't plan a kiss. It has to be natural. Just listen to that voice in your head saying "Kiss her! KISS HER!!"
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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1. get off the text
2. you must esculate with action not words
3. if you'd stayed off the text and only seen her twice with no kiss she wouldn't be complaining to her mates about you being slow.

I would be turnd off by what she said to her friends. Shows a lack of class and is disrespectful towards you. You shouldn't feel pressured to esculate. It should be a natural easy thing. Perhaps she's not being seductive enough. Has there been kino from her ?

Sounds like you are floating in and out of the friends zone. You need to eliminate this.
 

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Why so soon, K1N?
You both have been friends for over a year, so she's probably on the same mind track as you. More or less. But some women take more time to decide whether or not they want to be with you. It's not just men who are scared of dating and rejection.

It might not be a Don Juan thing to do, but why don't you two just continue to have a good time together? Trust me, if the feelings are strong and mutual, it will come out one way or another.

And if things seem to get better and she goes for another guy, then you're saving yourself the trouble of dating a flirty girl.
 
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