"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Moneytalks

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So, this is the reduced version of the backstory:

I like girl
Girl knocks me back
I get over it
We stay friends (as we had been for years)
I get based somewhere else with the navy
Go home one weekend, she doesn't want to hang out
Go back 4 more, still doesn't want to hang out
I accuse her of only wanting to see me when she wants something
We fall out

Fast forward 8 months to yesterday. She sent me a message on FB apologising and saying she misses me, then asked when I'm home. "I'm home now", I reply. So she asked if she can come round today to see me because she misses me, and keeps saying she can't wait. I told her to bring a couple of DVDs and her own booze round, if she wants a drink, because I only have beer and I'm not buying anything else. I thought that was a good move, because it shows her I won't keep doing things just for her anymore...right? Right?!

Anyway, how should I play this? I'd at least like to get stinky fingers by the end of the day. :woo:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Your in the navy but you don't have enough confidence in yourself to have a girl round to your house?

Ok. Well stop acting like her best friend, don't be moody either. When you see her you need to be friendly but distant (don't tell her everything that's happened in your life since you have seen her as this will be part of the excitement for her and you need to keep this information back and feed it to her slowly) just be funny, and use some kino. Stop putting her on a pedestal, it's just like any other girl...
 

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Moneytalks said:
I thought that was a good move, because it shows her I won't keep doing things just for her anymore...right? Right?!

Anyway, how should I play this? I'd at least like to get stinky fingers by the end of the day. :woo:

What you did was good as far as standing your ground. But if I understand the rest of your story, you already asked her out, she denied, and you became friends again....and you had already been friends for years.

So, yeah. Anything can happen, but the evidence suggests that she's just not into you. You know her better than I do, but I'm gonna assume that since you've already been Friend Zoning each other for years, she's not gonna all of a sudden want to bang you. Perhaps I'm wrong....but the evidence you've given suggests that I'm right.

I've heard of guys randomly getting out of the friend zone, but those are rare.
 

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Make a move on her. don't tell her you like her, don't tell her sh*t, just flirt with her and hang out as you are with just a random chick you met at the bar.

Go in for the kiss and make out with her, and then don't make a big deal out of it, don't even say sh*t about it, just act like nothing happened, and talk a litlte more, and then make out some more. But NEVER break down and tell her "ohhhhhh I've been wanting to kiss you for the last 10 years, I'm in love with you bla bla bla" please do NOT do any of that, just act like it's no big deal at all...

Keep proceeding further and further and hopefully you hit it.. and even after that, act as if it's no big deal and everythign is cool.. do not put ANY pressure on it, do not say "wellll what happens with us now.." nothing!! just be chill, enjoy your self, try to fvck the sh*t outta her and when you do still be cool about it and act like you guys just hung out..

let her be the one to bring up any "TALK" about you guys hanging out more or any relationship stuff or anythign like that.. don't you dare do it.. keep advancing physically without talking about it at all.. be cool, fun, relaxed, ****y, funny, confident, in charge..

Basically, make moves on her without talking about how much you like her or anything, and do not apologize for it.. you're a man, she's a girl, you wanna hit it, nothing wrong with it, so if she says anythign about "what are you doing", do NOT apologize, just go in and kiss her.. and tease her about if she says somethig like "why did you do that" after kissing you, since she's known you for so long, just be like "huh, waht are you talking about", with a smirk on your face, and talk normal for a minute and do it again, and just act like she is stupid if she asks you about it and be like "ummm, I dont' know what you're talking about".. Her: "but we're making out, what are we doing" you: "huh? making out? what are you talking about, that's crazy talk!" and kiss her some more,, lol, just keep effin with her like that.. if you keep proceeding, you'll end up fvcking her..

and even after all that, dont' talk about liking her or anythign like that.. let her say stuff first..
 

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justanothernormalguy said:
Your in the navy but you don't have enough confidence in yourself to have a girl round to your house?
Of course I do. I just wanted to get stuck into her, and didn't know how to play it.

I ended up at hers because...I'm not sure how the hell that happened. "I just ordered a pizza, come round and we'll have a few drinks and watch a film".

That's pretty much what we did. I remained fairly aloof with her, but not cold or moody. She said she's coming round here tomorrow. I won't be going to hers next time she wants to hang out.

I was being a bit ****y/funny. I got a message on FB and quickly had a look elsewhere when she went to the bathroom. Made a joke on her status about having to knock her back because she was making too many advances. Her sister joined in and it was pretty funny. I'll keep you posted.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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so you didn't make any moves on her, but joked around about it on facebook for the whole world to see? nice going :/

so "dont' talk about it, just make moves" turned into "talk about it but do nothing" lol
 

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So you finally get a last minute opportunity, though miniscule, for a second chance to make something happen, and you refuse to make a physical/sexual move on her. You are now officially her new male girlfriend. Her assexual buddy who she can hang out when she has nothing or nobody better to roll with.

Your downfall so far has been all talk, no action, and she knows it.

You need to adapt a "sexing talks, BS walk" type of attitude. You are now on borrowed time.

Why didn't/haven't you leaned in and kissed her? Did you even touch her hand, forearms, or anything?
 
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