need some advice

[smoothtalker72]

lately i've been hanging out with a new girl and i like her. we usually hang out with two mutual friends but occasionally we hang out alone. when we do hang out alone we can never think of something fun to do. anyway, i get the feeling she likes me. whenever we're alone shes very talkative and open about a lot. now dont get me wrong. i've made it a point to show im interested sexually in her. now and then throwing in jokes about her letting me cop a feel (she feels my chest all the time why shouldnt i be able to feel hers right? lol)anyway, i wanna simply tell her that i like her. thoughts?

and another thing, can i get some ideas on things to do that arent too costly? everything i can ever think to do costs a bit of money which i dont have right now. anything fun to do would be welcomed. i know walks are a good idea but thats not really what im looking for. and shes not the outdoorsy type so hiking or camping doesnt work either. other than that, ideas please.

 

[jeffthechef]

as for date ideas...the cheapest things that aren't ourdoors are bowling, movies, and window shopping haha...ice skating perhaps...dpeends where you live...google search around...get some local maps for tourists, if you have...

as for getting more intimate...never ask, never warn...just do it, but slowly and softly...this way she doesn't feel forced, violated, and has time to stop you if she so desires...if she does stop you, just ocntinue where you are and dont push it...cause if you push too hard, she might never let you back or at least for a long time....

and finally, as for telling her you like her...don't do it...that's one of the main powers you have as a man...MYSTERY
she wants to be liked/loved...and if you don't tell her, she'll try harder to get you to...the point at which she should find out you like her is when it becomes official...

 

[smoothtalker72]

i appreciate your input. i have another issue/question. we usually hang out with two other people. however when these two people are together they tend to argue a lot and agitate my target girl making her hard to talk to. and its not really easy to isolate her from the other two, they like to follow. how would you deal with the situation? i tried just talking to her but when shes like that she doesnt really wanna talk. which is understandable because the bickering pushes me to my limit too. and she said i come off like a therapist lol.

i think my biggest problem is coming up with things to do when we're alone.... which is usually late at night. we just end up driving around and talking which i know she gets bored of. i've been tempted to just drive to a park but what are we really gonna do in a park late at night? i know shes not at the point where i can get her alone and make out with her so if i tried making my move now its a done deal. i just need something to do BEFORE it gets too late to get her mood juices flowing so to speak. im thinking roller skating

 

[jeffthechef]

most girls like it when you are decisive and spontaneous

always have a plan...if she doesnt like the plan, ask her what she wants...but usually she'll ask you....you can do pretty much anything when you're alone, you can fukin drive...if i could drive i would have a much easier time with the ladies...simply look around...there are things everywhere...perhaps you guys can have your own barbeque....drive to a nice spot, turn on the radio and dance...ANYTHING...perhaps tlak to her friends too..

as for isolating, you're going to have to plan things with her alone...your two friends can still hang out with you during other times...perhaps talk to the guy, tell him you need some alone time

 

[smoothtalker72]

if i decide to just feel her up shes going to kill me. a kiss is ok but for this girl, grabbing is a no no. seen someone do it to her in a club and it didnt end well

 

[jeffthechef]

if you guys are kissing already, then i would assume you guys are official...has she asked already? Most girls would be curious about your status after the first kiss...if she isn't that's odd, or perhaps she's assuming you guys are already

thus, you should escalate and then find out what happens...it's not like you are some random guy feeling her up in the club

 

[Ice882]

I don't think they're kissing yet Jeff. He's speculating.

 

[jeffthechef]

thanks ice, and if that's the case...

why should you (the o.p.) even be worried about escalating/relationships...what stage are you at? do you have her number, does hse know you, etc.