"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Need Some Advice With My Next " Female Hunt" at My Gym

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For those of you who may have read my earlier post where I mentioned that I talked to five women last weekend and one of them was a woman at my gym. With the woman at my gym, I flirted with her, was quite sexual with her in terms of her eyes, lips, etc. I was first sitting at one of the machines working out by myself, and then she came over and began working out next to me. We had a good conversation, but I didn't try asking for her number at that very moment, in order not to come across as desperate. What I did though, was ask her if she'll be at the gym around the same time this coming weekend. Her response was: "Maybe."

So here's where I need some helpful advice. In case she does show up at the gym this weekend and I take a chance and talk to her one more time, would it be a wrong approach to ask her for instance: "What are you doing tonight? I'm going out for drinks with some friends. Would you like to come along?" I'm wondering if it might be too fast for me to try setting up a hangout date with the chick on the night of the same day when I try asking for her number, in case she doesn't tell me she has a boyfriend. What do you guys think?

P.S.: Gyms are interesting. Does anyone think that attached and even married women might be more tempted to cheat on their mates with guys they see in gyms? I mean...it's crazy. I see older women walking around flirting with younger guys, stopping to talk to them at the machines for minutes and minutes, etc., I even saw, just two days ago, an older woman who looked like she had a shiny, wedding ring on her finger, giving her number to some guy. The rate of sexual temptation in gyms seems to be pretty high.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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This is a really important post to me based on my current situation, and I would be grateful if someone could please give me some feedback. Charm, Francisco, etc., where are you guys?
 

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You'd be better off having ANOTHER Good conversation and make her laugh at least once. If you make her laugh, follow that up with, you know, we should get together sometime. THEN WAIT FOR HER RESPONSE. If she says, "yea id like that" then you say, tell me your number and ill call you to make plans. Then get her number. Then you can leave or stay if you got enough game to keep her laughing and having fun. You could use the ESCAPE line "Im having such a good time talking to you my sides are starting to hurt from all this laughing. Ill call you later and make plans."
 

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Ok. Thanks once again, Charm. So if she uses the "I have a boyfriend" line, I definitely shouldn't even try to be persistent, I think, right? I was kinda surprised, though. Although we had a good conversation last weekend and she sat next to me for quite a couple minutes, she left before I even had a chance to think whether or not to ask for her number. She was like:" Well...enjoy the rest of your workout." Sometimes some women purposefully say those things and leave to prevent guys from trying to ask them out later on in the conversation.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Didn't you want to meet intellectual women last week? The gym is not very intellectual. It's more of a shallow meat market, like a dance club.
 

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Hi BibleBelt,

Well...since I don't have a car anymore, I try to talk to women whererever I can, and the gym happens to be the only place I go to three days a week, aside from school. So I don't limit my options because the great feeling of regret which overcomes you-when you see that one lady at the gym who you thought about talking to but never approached, leaving with someone else-is tough to deal with.
 

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A few years ago I would flirt heavily with this 47 year old married woman who was in incredible shape for her age, bathed in perfume and wore bebe shirts (yup one of those). She would compliment my physique and said I should compete (as in bodybuilding). I would show her how to properly do exercises and touch her, etc... It was really tempting but I didn't want to risk getting shot, plus she was supposed to hook me up with her 21 y/o daughter.

The gym is just another venue for married wh0res to do their thing.
 

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Quit defending yourself to Biblebelt. You can ask out women anywhere you want, its your god-given right and you owe nobody an explanation. He was testing you and you failed.

Next,

She probably left for whatever reason she wanted. Maybe your BodyOdor was too much for her after those couple of minutes. Im joking but seriously quit trying to think what she was thinking. Being a DJ is about developing an inner-game, not worrying about what everyone else thinks including her.

If you have another opportunity, dont let her slip away. If she says have a nice workout, stop her and say, hey, hold on a minute. Since your leaving and barely got a chance to know me, lets get together sometime at a cafe and we can continue this conversation. You LET Her leave. You could have asked her to wait and said the above. Grow some balls
 

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Awesome Advice Espi. Rep to you
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Good feedback, Charm, Espi, and every one else. If I get an opportunity to talk to her again next time, I'll definitely ask her out. If I do get a sense that she's avoiding me, though-going to different sections of the gym to use other machines when she sees me coming or looking away when she sees me so that I can't make eye contact with her-I'll leave her alone. And Epsi, you have a point. That remains my concern with gyms. I don't care about being rejected, but it would be tough not to remember the rejection when you keep running into those women you talked to over and over. The good thing about my gym is that it has very many locations both in Philadelphia, in the state of PA, and across the U.S. The handicap I have at the moment is I'm restricted to the location closest to my university because I don't have a car.

A perfect example that would correspond with what you're saying, Epsi, is my recent bitter rupture with a 35 year old woman I met at my gym in Mid-September. It was so bad that it was inevitable one of us had to avoid the other. She, having a car, decided to do so...I think she probably goes to another location now, and I think it was the right decision.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Didn't you want to meet intellectual women last week? The gym is not very intellectual. It's more of a shallow meat market, like a dance club.
Yeah, intellectual women don't work out, so you won't find them in your gym. Only intellectual men like us work out, but the women stay home intellectualizing more.
 

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Espi said:
I work out regularly and have learned through trial and error that it is best to leave these women alone...this being due to regularized meetings...I have been rejected by several women at my gym, and though it doesn't prevent me from working out, it does remind me of the rejection every time I see these women.

So, if you can handle rejection, askj the woman out. If not, just be fliratatious and wait for her to open you.
Whaaaa? Espi saying this? And someone congratulating on his post?

You should care a rats ass about the rejection. "It does remind me of the rejection..." :confused: !!! She "rejected" you, so what? You move on to the next woman. That bytch will be red hot jealous once she sees you're the hot stuff and have the power to be spinning lots of plates. Even if she gets red hot jealous or not, it's none of your buissiness, she rejected you, end of case.

This gym stuff keeps coming up, I'll make a guide to gym approaching this week. It's really obvious though. You go, say hi, fluff, kino, and close.

Frank2500 said:
I didn't try asking for her number at that very moment, in order not to come across as desperate. What I did though, was ask her if she'll be at the gym around the same time this coming weekend.
Desperate? Or to not come across as a man? You are a man and find her sexy and want to fvck her. You sugar coat that fact, with a number close, so that you sugar coat her face after a get-together. You have read Pook haven't you? Embrace your sexuality. (I just remembered! I dreamt I met Pook, ugly mofo he was!)

Now, by not asking her out you are now wondering and waiting to see if she is coming on the weekend, or tomorrow, or Monday... just like women do with the flowers "loves me, loves me not...". And you are not a girl, you are a man. Next time you chat her up, kino etc, and then close.

My gym thread. Next time there is something concerning gyms leave it up to me guys. You take the nightlife questions. :cool:
 

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Samependo, I'm still in the process of reading Pook's suggestions in the DJ Bible. Haven't finished yet. I'm at page 87 or so...
 

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I really was mainly impressed by Espi saying this: hey, on our last conversation, you never asked me out. So how about joining for me for a cup of coffee Saturday at Starbucks?"

Everything else was ignored ;) Ill be more clear from now on ;P
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I didn't get to see that woman at the gym this past weekend, anyway. Perhaps I gave her a hint by asking her if she was going to be there again on Saturday and she deliberately chose not to come. Anyway, who cares what she thinks? There's just too many women out there for me to waste my time on one. On to the next!
 
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