"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Need some advice please

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I asked a girl if I could copy her notes before class but I couldn't finish so I asked if we could meet before class the next time and I asked for her number which she gave to me.
After class, I asked her about a tattoo she had and where she was from because I didn't recognize the area code. Then it was nice to meet you see you on Wednesday.
I feel like I'm off to a good start. She seemed responsive and smiled a lot. Now how do I make sure to continue in the right direction?
I'm planning on inviting her and her friends to a BBQ/party saturday also.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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do what u r doing... tell her you are treating her to the bbq for her helping you with the notes. then, get her buzzed and do her up
 

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Alright, so I met her 15 minutes before class and we had good convo while i was copying her notes kept it light and funny had some jokes. We then walked into class and sat next to eachother on the floor because there were no more seats left. During the lecture I made a couple jokes. I invited her to a BBQ/Party on Saturday and she was excited and said she'd definitely come. After class it was just a quick bye and I'll talk to you later ill call you saturday.

Also, I had mentioned a speech that we both could go to to get credit for a course on friday and she said that she might be able to make it.

My questions are:
Should I contact her about the speech on friday and when or should I just wait until saturday.

Also, even though I just met her I was thinking of giving her a big hug when I see her saturday just to get her comfortable with some KINO.

Any other advice for saturday would be great! Thanks a lot guys
 

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The nice guy routine will work for about another day or two until she gets bored, which will happen when you remove all doubt that you like her. Right now, she can still wonder, and that what she really likes about you - trying to figure out if you like her. That makes no sense, I know, but don't try to understand, just accept it as how women are.

Don't talk to her until Saturday. Go out on Friday, drink beer and talk to other girls. The object is to not think about her. She will probably sit at home and have extended conversations with her girlfriends where they all try to figure out your true feelings toward her.

Then I would text her once on Sat to tell her you were leaving for the party and ask if she needs a ride. Then just go and have fun for yourself. If she wants to go together with you, that means she likes you a lot and wants it to be a date. If she brings a friend and mostly ignores you, that means the opposite.

It is fine to touch her, and to touch her a lot more if she likes it, but don't do the creepy hug thing. Touch her lightly from time to time on the elbow or hip when the two of you share a laugh. If she stands next to you and presses against you, then she wants your arm around her. Just cue off her. If she tries to be close to you, then she likes you.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Thanks for the advice, man. I was actually planning on inviting her and her friends over my house before the thing to build rapport between me and her and my housemate and her friends.

The thing I was also wondering about it how do I make myself the center of her attention? There are going to be other guys at the party, and she's hot but I don't want to be following her around, I want her following me around.
 

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The BBQ idea is good... but it can either bite you in the a$$ or be a huge boon. The key is how you play her friends.

Having her and her friends over can be good because if you can win over her friends, then she will be all over you. However, if her friends take an instant dislike to you, they will act as her shields for the entire outing and ****block you into oblivion.

What I would do if I was committed to the BBQ already, would be to just be a gracious host to everyone. Try and have fun with all her friends and even game them a bit, especially if some of her friends are fat and/or unattractive. If all goes well, she will indeed be the one following you around and giving you all sorts of IOIs... when she gives you a healthy amount of these, isolate her and move in.

Good luck!
 

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Bible_Belt said:
The nice guy routine will work for about another day or two until she gets bored, which will happen when you remove all doubt that you like her.
EXACTLY what I was thinking.

I smell a friendzone possibly in the near future.


Everytime you call her,text her,speak to her in person,laugh,joke,and play around with her while NOT SHOWING A SEXUAL INTEREST,she gets more and more used to you being nonsexual.


I wouldn't be surprised if she met and started flirting with some other guy at this BBQ you're inviting her to.


Seems to me like you're trying to avoid the possiblity of rejection.

That's a no-go kid.


If there's no possibility of rejection,there'll be no dating.


It's IMPOSSIBLE to date/have a relationship WITHOUT risking rejection.




There's nothing wrong with inviting her and her friends to the BBQ,but why haven't you shown a DIRECT INTEREST in her?


You could have done both at the same time. You could have asked her out...TO THE BBQ. That way you'd AUTOMATICALLY have been the center of her attention. Plus,she'd feel comfortable having her friends there.


The BBQ could have been like a pre-date date.


And instead of giving her a hug on Saturday,TELL HER you like the way she looks.


You need to start showing a romantic interest in her...SOON,or she's going to just write you off as another nice guy.
 

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Igetit! said:
There's nothing wrong with inviting her and her friends to the BBQ,but why haven't you shown a DIRECT INTEREST in her?


You could have done both at the same time. You could have asked her out...TO THE BBQ. That way you'd AUTOMATICALLY have been the center of her attention. Plus,she'd feel comfortable having her friends there.
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I'm no expert, but I have to disagree. It was only my second time ever talking to her and by inviting her and eye contact etc I think she knows Im interested.
 

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OH MY GOD!
I just looked her up and facebook and she's "In a Relationship." F***ing great.

EDIT: Nevermind....wrong girl I think..I hope
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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This other girl that I was talking about in another thread just texted me. I called her today after not speaking with her for 3 days to invite her to the park with me and to bring her dog. She said she didn't have her dog it was at her parents house for a few days. So I said I guess ill have to find someone else to go with. She responded with "okay" I told her next time then and goodbye.

She just texted me:
Her: you should be 21...I'm walking by your house now.
Me;I will be soon. I bet you can't wait ;D.
Her. Ha, yeah that's it.
Me: Do you want to pretend to have a dog and come to the park with me tomorrow?
Her; if I'm not too hungover

I ended it there. In hindsight I kind of invited her twice...AFC? Was she just drunk texting me? Could I have gone outside?
 
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