Need help with HB6-7

[ssj4halo]

should I say "yea after your work"

Why do you say she will dump me?? I don't care if she does...I thought I was doing a pretty good job so far :[

 

[HardTimes]

Why do you say she will dump me??

Because she's a woman.

I don't care if she does...I thought I was doing a pretty good job so far :[

Good, thats why I said just try to hit it asap before she dumps you.

 

[ssj4halo]

I ended up saying "after? Unless you have to get up early." She said she is gonna crash right after work at 10 pm because she has school(9 or 10 am) and then work till 10. I replied back "Psh you weaksause. I'll call you up later to make plans for the weekend.". She replied "lol k. and you try working a night at lamppost-I love it but it can certainly zap energy" I replied back "I was just joking . gnight." and she replied "lol. night" I feel like I messed up somewhere in the last few lines...dammit.

Oh well. I guess I won't lose my virginity before 21

 

[strong like bull]

heres a post i think would be good for you to read:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=56701

i read all your posts and it definitely seems youre on the right track with this girl. good for you!

its also interesting to see that youre in a similar stage, when it comes to girls, that i was when about your age. (i didnt lose my virginity until i was 19)

while youre on the right track, theres a couple things you should definitely keep in mind. things that i know helped me break through my sticking point.

first off, relax! being inexperienced with women is just as awkward as being inexperienced at anything else in life. especially when social dynamics and other people are added.. it can be nerve wrecking! but true confidence comes only from first hand experience.

second, embrace your sexuality! read the post i linked to. the vast majority of guys who come to this site (like i did, and you did) are having problems with girls... mostly because we over-analyze everything.

"did i wait too long to call her? did i call her too soon? did she like my hat? oh, damnit i forgot to tell her about that one time when i was..."

were trying to think our way through the equation of women... and were missing the point completely. if we invite a girl into our life, it should be because the interaction is FUN. because she makes you FEEL GOOD. or TURNS YOU ON! as pook would say, in your head you should be thinking "Ooh La La!" at how much you enjoy her presence... not "Oh **** what do i do next!"

thats why its so important to get in touch with your natural desires. do what comes natural! you know you want to be inside her, and you know she wants the same. whats the problem? a lot of times it seems that we become our own worst enemies and mentally defeat ourselves.

third, having oneitus will fvck your game up. part of having that inner confidence to draw from, is knowing that you dont NEED her in your life. trust me bro, my gf and i live together and love eachother very much, and have a very fulfilling relationship. but i know for a fact that if i got all needy and desperate, regardless of how the past 2 years have been, she would lose respect and the relationship would suffer. why? 'cause women want a man who is strong, emotionally stable and confident.

how do you avoid oneitus? have things in your life that are more important than her. i love my gf to death... but i have a job, a business im getting off the ground, i go to the gym, do guy-stuff with my friends here and there... she knows i have things i need to get done, and spending (healthy) time apart especially when we live together, is crucial to maintaining a fun relationship. focus on you and bettering yourself. remember that she is the icing on your cake. not the cake itself. and nobody would want to eat a cake made only of icing.

keep escalating with the kino and whatnot. as men thats our job. be confident and accept the fact that you like eachother. just make your move and go with it. this may be the last chick you ever date, maybe not. dont go through life wondering "what if." take a chance and make the most of the opportunity at hand. dont be overly cliche about it, but eventually put yourselves in a situation where you two are alone and shes comfortable. obviously if roommates are there, or parents or friends or whatever are around she probably wont be comfortable to move forward.

just go with the flow. read that post, and read my signature quotes from blitz. us men have been getting laid since the dawn of time. its nothing new nor something to fret about. in time, as you grow as a man... getting laid will definitely be the LEAST of your worries.

good luck

-slb

 

[TheBucketOfTruth]

Oh well. I guess I won't lose my virginity before 21

Keep your head up, man. Don't have such a defeatist attitude.

PS: For me, HB6 is not a label I can comprehend. HB stands for "hot babe," does it not? In my reality, 6s are not "hot babes." (My rant for the night)

 

[ssj4halo]

Thanks guys.

hmmm interesting. I dont have one-itus for her I think. I just like the whole kino thing and making out being done by sololy me and not using money or under the influence of the drink. I guess that momentary power boost I felt. Its that which I really "miss" and want to feed. But I still kinda like her personality a lot. Not enough to say a oneitus.

I'll call her up tomorrow and make plans for saturday. what to do though...hmmmm...I need an excuse to go over to her empty apartment. besides studying over at her place I can't really think of a legimate reason. Maybe we can try cooking lunch...She said she doesn't like watching movies for dates. She would rather "talk" through the dates. Any ideas?

 

[Maxtro]

hmmm interesting. I dont have one-itus for her I think.

Trust me. You do

Another problem is I feel really empty(today morning). Like something is missing inside me. I don't want to admit its cause I like her. Everything seems so dull and I cant stop thinking about her...Goddamit. I haven't felt like this since high school(three years ago). This bittersweet feeling. I kinda miss it.

That proves it right there.

She texts me around 11:30 pm. We were txting each other since then. I was gonna go to sleep and said when we meetin up again? She said she is free on the weekends. I replied that we can study at my place or hers and take breaks and talk. Im guessing its a bad move because its been about 4 minutes and she hasn't replied back. What should I do???

In here you are freaking about because she hasn't texted you in 4 minutes.

You've got it bad.

Just so you know dude, I don't want to see you get hurt. Be careful. I'd also recommend getting to know other girls. As the saying goes, "Don't put all your eggs in one basket."

 

[ssj4halo]

So that girl HB7 is sick. so we cancelled our date this weekend. Also i called her and she didn't call back...


Anyways friends bday party(21st). We went to it. I ended up talking to this HB4. she was kinda chubby. Talked to her for a bit and we started dancing. After a while she sat down. I talked to her friend and played around with her. SHe was cute(HB7). Anyways after I got friends with her friend and the alpha male in group, that girl told me to sit down. I sit down and we start making out for about 10 minutes. At end end, I put my hand in her shirt and was feeling her breasts(bare breasts). THis went on for a good two minutes. THen she asked me for my number. After we exchanged the cops came. We had to seperate but I got her number. How long should I wait to call her??

 

[ssj4halo]

By the way, I was kissing her breasts(her bare breasts) in the middle of the party dance floor(on the couch). I asked her to come outside with me "for a while" and also asked her to feel my **** while I was feeling up her breasts, she said no both times. I coulda done it better but i was drunk and wasn't thinking straight.

 

[ssj4halo]

This HB7 is really annoyin me. She has work and school all the time and only end up hanging out once a week. What should I tell her so she can make at least an hour or two here and there around her busy schedule?

edit: we were texting just now and i ended up telling ehr straight up. I dont understand why its so hard to spend an hour here n there. We both are really busy but IM sure we can still meet up for a bit and chat and do something big over the weekend. etc.

She was acting like this because she didnt want me to wait for her or some ****. I told her I am not gonna be waiting around and told her that just call me up if u get out of work and if I am busy o well, if not we can meet up. etc.

she said okay at the end.

I think I solved it the alpha way. who knows..

 

[Eaglecreek]

This HB7 is really annoyin me. She has work and school all the time and only end up hanging out once a week. What should I tell her so she can make at least an hour or two here and there around her busy schedule?

Dude I see my GF once a week and you know what? I'M HAPPY WITH THAT! You aren't married or something... you barely know each other, the less you see each other the more you will apreciate the times you do

edit: we were texting just now and i ended up telling ehr straight up. I dont understand why its so hard to spend an hour here n there. We both are really busy but IM sure we can still meet up for a bit and chat and do something big over the weekend. etc.

Stop chasing the fvck close and have some fun dude... :crazy: What are you thinking?!
- you like her
- she likes you
You don't need more than that, chill the fvck out and go with the flow... You acted like yourself and she liked it, stop trying to act like something you aren't then now... all the puzzle pieces will come easier than you think if you just act normal instead of a horny dog

She was acting like this because she didnt want me to wait for her or some ****. I told her I am not gonna be waiting around and told her that just call me up if u get out of work and if I am busy o well, if not we can meet up. etc.

Now you made her use the Attention wh*re **** tests...
"I understand blablabla i need attention blablablabla" just say "UHU" and act normal... Don't listen to it, it's trash, give it not attention nor thoughts

Think of this stuff as with your brother or sister or best mate: you call to meet, you know they got stuff to do aswell and you would understand if they can only see you once right... Why can't you then understand if she can only see you once... You did well in the beginning but you acted like an afc at the end. Demanding to see her? :nono: She has to demand seeing you, she too busy? so are you!

she said okay at the end.

She's lieing... She doesn't find it okay, she finds it very lame! And now she's probebly pissed at you for acting so silly.

I think I solved it the alpha way. who knows..

sorry mate, you didn't

anyhow don't be to hard on yourself when you read this, everybody goes through this period, its up to you to take the advice given to you and learn from the mistakes you made which im certain you will :yes:

Now: how to glue the damage if you think you should:
- call her and tell her you overreacted, you just wanted to see her cause she relaxes you and you were under some stress from college.
END there, don't do more, don't do less... end the call, if she calls you back to tell you its okay and wants to meet up you pickup the pieces and continue where you left, if she doesn't move on she ain't worth the time anyway.

One day in the week is brilliant for reasons which been given earlier

!Do not beg for her, don't ever beg, apologizing is normal, begging ain't!

 

[Kevin Feng]

Asian Playboy always tells me that pick up is 90% balls and 10% skill and I couldn't agree more.

Remember, women like being chased, as well as men obviously. It's our job as men to fulfill that spot especially in our society. It's a lot more rare that a woman will hit on a woman instead of the opposite.

Also, you may experience some sexual anxiety the more you game more and the futher you escalate with this girl. Remember, balls to the wall, if you mess it up or get wierd, consider it progress, it's absolutely necessary to the experience.

-Kevin

 

[ssj4halo]

oh man. I really did it that bad? wow.

Anyways, she ended up calling me on Monday(around 5). I didnt see the call until 6 pm. I talked to her for a bit and she said she wanted to hang out. I told her i have class until 9pm, but I'll drop by her place after.

She is still sick. I felt it when I kissed her. ANyways, we just went to taco bell...again...its right next to her apartment. Then we just talked and stuff at her apartment(watched youtube videos). I was messing with her hand the whole time. push/pull(literally/softly throwing her hand away). I don't know what I was doing but I was feeling up her back.

She lives with her step sister...I ended up complimenting her that she is able to pay most of the rent and being independent and all. I talked to her step sister for a while, she was nice.

Anyways, I kept feeling her back and I dont know I went in her shirt and kept feeling up her back and stomach area. She didn't seem to back away or anything. She was tryna get her phone on the other side of the table and she dropped it(maybe cause I was feeling her up). I don't know, it sounds kinda creepy when I talk about it here, but she didn't seem to mind at all and talked normally/kino'ed back.

I asked her to make out(dunno why) and sit in my lap. She said no to both. Her excuse for not making out was cause she was sick(understandable?)

I dont want to apologize....It might seem to AFC...I think I am going to take your advice and just gonna see her less(once or twice a week) and not complain, and see how it builds up...

Thanks for the feedback!!

 

[ssj4halo]

We hung out yesterday again at her place. Walked around town for like an hour. Then back to her place and made out for a good 30 minutes.

I started kissing her mouth then went down to her breast area, but she wouldnt let me kiss upper part(her shirt and bra were still on). However, she let me hold on to her breasts with my hand and I was able to kiss her like everywhere where her clothes were not at.

Im thinking maybe with a few more make out sessions I can get more in. However, I am totally advancing like all the time and backing out. Its her that is keep backing out. I even tried the "i know we shouldnt be doing this" LMR thing. dammit. Maybe she needs more time. She also doesnt' really kiss me anywhere besides my face. She wants me to do all the kissing wth is up with taht??

 

[Credos]

Totally with eaglecreek on this one. Lol I'm seeing my gf 2 times a week and get the feeling its to much. (though its prolly thanks to my internship which has reduced my social life to zero, thus I'm only seeing her) I remember that about 4 years ago I had the same like you, wanting to see my gf alot, she'll get dull very fast and so will you.

Anyhow, at start its normal you wanna see each other alot, you know. By the way, in a relationship there's alwayse one person who "loves" the other more. The one who loves the other less, is in control. (if you get the hint)

For your situation: I think she's kinda pissed at you now because you acted silly. Stop pushing to much by the way, the touching thing is good, but sometimes, NO means NO (She didn't say no to the touching so keep at it, its not wierd, its called escalating ). You gonna get laid sooner or later, seeing your progress it won't take to much longer. So stop focusing on it, cause it making you act desperatly. By the way, stop giving it so much to her... Make her hunger for more. I've alwayse been good at that. I'm not a good kisser because I actually kiss good, but I'm a good kisser because when I kiss a girl, I ALWAYSE pull back in the middle of the kiss, making them want more. I control the moment, not her. If I want more I go for more, if I don't then I grin and tell her in a teasing way: no . I suggest you start doing this too, at least for a while. (remember, by having a major smile on your face, your making clear to her that you are teasing her)

like eaglecreek said:

Stop chasing the fvck close and have some fun dude... What are you thinking?!

The good news by the way is she called you, so she's probebly still intrested so you can still win this girl over.

I'll say it one more time though: Stop giving it to her so much and let her work for it. (that you're the price blabla... I wouldn't actually call it this, I would call it seduction and you being in control, not you being a price )
You're the man, she's the girl, she allowed you to seduce her, now you allow her to follow your lead.

(example: You wanna go bowling: allow her to join, if she doens't wanna join, tell her you'll go with friends instead then = this is allowing her to follow your lead)

 

[ssj4halo]

Oh yea, I was talking to her last time and she told me she doesnt like sitting on other peoples laps(when she said no some time ago). The last person she did it with was when she was a little kid and sat on her dads lap(her parents got divorced a bit after). Understandable.

Ill try the backing out thing. I kinda did it, but didn't make it that discrete like u said(the grin). haha.

I was gonna text her today and just say whats up.

 

[Credos]

Good to hear mate, without trying and failing you won't ever learn. You're doing great and you'll be better than all of us soon enough champ

Keep up the good work and go with the flow
by that i mean: listening to advice is great, but don't literly do the same, cause it will feel fake. Instead change this pattern that people give you in something thats congruent with the person you are, a pattern that fits you personality. By doing so you've outbested most of us already. And keep an open mind (which you clearly have atm )

trail and error is a good way to feel the new patterns you made, how they fit you, what needs changing etc. After applying the info that I gave you it still feels a bit akward, but practice makes perfect mate, and your changing that pattern in one thats applyable for yourself

 

[ssj4halo]

Im going to see her on tuesday. However, I am in a situation. Some other girl that i was talking to from two weeks ago called me at 1:30 am last night. I called her back...ill skip the details...but I had sex with her.

We talked today morning and she said that you don't have to call me back if you don't want to(as in its okay to ditch her even though its our first meeting since i got her number?). SHe is really strong(in terms of personality, alpha chick and likes to be controlling). Now, I can easily get in a relshionship with her and have sex multiple times a week so that in the future I will be "good" at sex.

Now here is the problem...I dont even like her. She is just an object to me. I felt HORRIBLE today. Even though i lost my virginity...i wasn't happy. She has only been with 4 other guys before me so she isn't a slut.

The girl in this thread, lets call her Liz, im doing good with her. Its been a bit over a month since we have been seeing each other. I dont know what to do. I know i can have sex with her within a good month.

I have a lot of thinkin to do...

 

[ssj4halo]

okay. problem. I dont know what happened...we had a date today night(planned for over a week since i saw her). Se texts me earlier today and says she has a dance recital that she totally forgot about. I reply about 2hours later its okay but u gotta make it up. cook me some food!!

she texts:are you sure you want me to do that!lmao!!
me:Yea, go crazy. Make me some dinner. I'll help you if you want
she: lol okay blahblahblah if i mess up its your own risk
me:So what date should i look forward to for this awesome meal?
she: I got finals and stuffblahblah, after the 20th? I'll let you know.
me(stupid move on me): when are your finals
her:next week(her semester ends next wed..then she is totally free from school)
me: take a break n see me later this week
her:if I can finish up my paintings then yea. sure.
me: sounds good. or we can just study together(not a good move)
her: maybe
me: lol. na forget it. ttyl!!
her: ok? byeez

uhhh...did It look that I got personally affected that she said maybe? and what just happened