"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Need help with doing the inevitable !!

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Well guys..this is my first post here..and needless to say i have read your guys responses and all i can say is they are frickin' awesome and very insightful.
I have only recently come across this problem, which i wanna share and get some VALUABLE TIPS on. Just last night at a party i started chatting up this smookkking hot babe and we chatted for like hours and dear god, every flirting tip in the book u can think of she was doing, sitting close together, touching my lap, unwavering eye contact, unecessary and stupid questions..anyhoo i finally (after some time) did the shift change - leaned into and smelled her, told her she smelled good, she started laughing..i then went into the 'do u wanna kiss me?' and she thinks abt it for like 4 secs and then says i cant, i have a bf..and then she goes like if i didnt have one, i wld have gone for it, blah blah. ok no problem, game still on...after that i took her into a dark corner, she went willingly, chatted/flirted for a bit, i did the 'do u wanna kiss me' thing again, and she is like very hesitantly..no i cant do it, i dont wanna cheat again blah blah. i let her go after like 2 hrs of hard work into that babe and got zilch.
My question is that what is a nice transition to making out as she was horny as fcuk and also the 'do u wanna kiss me' worked like crap and gave her the opportunity to rationalize things in a non-rational situation. i figure a better approach wld have done the job.
ANY .002 cents here ?
Thanks
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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anyone ?
i just want a nice tranisition from heavy flirting to kissing...except the 'just go for it' part.
 

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A few things. First of all if she has a BF don't do it. I don't care how hot she is. Kharma can be a ***** down the road if you know what I mean. Second...............







NEVER ASK A GIRL TO KISS. Maybe I read your post wrong and you were talking about a vibe you were sending out so if you were my apoligies. However there are better ways. The hair touch test taught by DeAngelo has worked for me everytime. Hell I taught it before I heard of DeAngelo. You also have to consider the fact that this girl could be playing you. Some girls get off on dangling themselves in front of you like a carrot on a stick. Low Self-Esteem and the need to prove to themselves that they can manipulate others (not just limited to girls by the way)
 

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milrenkb said:
NEVER ASK A GIRL TO KISS.
Yea, about that. This guy named Mike Dmitrz came to our university and gave a lecture called "Can I Kiss You?" He talked about relationships and how far you can go with a girl and doing things without her verbal permission.

I know this goes against the way of the DJ in about every way possible, but this guy made some pretty valid points. He asked us "why is it you would ask somebody for $5 that belongs to them, but not a girl if you can do something with her body that belongs to her?"

He said it takes more balls to ask her than to not ask her, because by asking you are more confident in the face of rejection and still respect her at the same time. He also added if you ask the girl and she turns you down, then it means she didn't want to do it anyways.

This is probably worthy of its own topic, so I'll do just that.
 

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IsiMan84 said:
Yea, about that. This guy named Mike Dmitrz came to our university and gave a lecture called "Can I Kiss You?" He talked about relationships and how far you can go with a girl and doing things without her verbal permission.

I know this goes against the way of the DJ in about every way possible, but this guy made some pretty valid points. He asked us "why is it you would ask somebody for $5 that belongs to them, but not a girl if you can do something with her body that belongs to her?"

He said it takes more balls to ask her than to not ask her, because by asking you are more confident in the face of rejection and still respect her at the same time. He also added if you ask the girl and she turns you down, then it means she didn't want to do it anyways.

This is probably worthy of its own topic, so I'll do just that.
What the hell is with you and this Mike-too many consonants- Dr Phil clone?

Read the DJ Bible and dismiss the other diarrheah.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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What the hell is this? 2 posts now about asking a girl for a kiss????

Im sorry but that has to be one of the stupidist things you can do when you are gaming a girl. You dont ask! If you hadnt have asked I rekon you would have been in. She would have thought "Oh my god!" Then she would return the kiss naturally then she would be more willing.

Asking a girl for a kiss is lowering yourself. Do you ask her if you can go to the loo or do you just go and say you will be right back?

Its a stupid trate on this site that needs to stop now because people like tantrum boy are using it and missing out on pvssy.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
What the hell is with you and this Mike-too many consonants- Dr Phil clone?

Read the DJ Bible and dismiss the other diarrheah.

Amen !

Don't give advice if you don't know what you are talking about!
 

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tantrumboy said:
Well guys..this is my first post here..and needless to say i have read your guys responses and all i can say is they are frickin' awesome and very insightful.
I have only recently come across this problem, which i wanna share and get some VALUABLE TIPS on. Just last night at a party i started chatting up this smookkking hot babe and we chatted for like hours and dear god, every flirting tip in the book u can think of she was doing, sitting close together, touching my lap, unwavering eye contact, unecessary and stupid questions..anyhoo i finally (after some time) did the shift change - leaned into and smelled her, told her she smelled good, she started laughing..i then went into the 'do u wanna kiss me?' and she thinks abt it for like 4 secs and then says i cant, i have a bf..and then she goes like if i didnt have one, i wld have gone for it, blah blah. ok no problem, game still on...after that i took her into a dark corner, she went willingly, chatted/flirted for a bit, i did the 'do u wanna kiss me' thing again, and she is like very hesitantly..no i cant do it, i dont wanna cheat again blah blah. i let her go after like 2 hrs of hard work into that babe and got zilch.
My question is that what is a nice transition to making out as she was horny as fcuk and also the 'do u wanna kiss me' worked like crap and gave her the opportunity to rationalize things in a non-rational situation. i figure a better approach wld have done the job.
ANY .002 cents here ?
Thanks

Well this offcourse isn't a new problem less talk more kino ! read up on it in the bible or somewhere !
 
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