Need help with a tough case

[GloriouslyInsane]

Hello again guys, GI here.So right to the point, i met a girl a month ago, easily HB8 and kind of a bookworm (not extreme case) and she's a virgin.Thing is escalating is extremely hard.The problem is in the end she controls the situation,what i mean by that is e.g. first date i try to touch her boobs,heavy resistance,i warm her up,same thing,at some point she is almost moaning but still wont let me touch her anywhere.

On the next date boob area is clear and i have full-access,next i try to go south,same thing allover,no matter how hot she gets,at one point i kinda slipped my fingers between her legs (over her pants) and she was ****ing wet,i could feel it through her jeans for fvcks sake,then i managed to rub her from outside her panties (on the next date).Looks like she's taking the thing step by step giving a bit more everytime,now i am at the handjob stage i guess but im getting tired of this sh!t.On a side note,everytime i try to escalate every 5-10 mins for hours (in between i warm her up) but she refuses persistantly (until next date that is..).So how i see it i have 3 options,

1)Freeze out for some time (week) and then go caveman on her

2)Right out go caveman on her

3)Next her (already planned it if nothing happens in the next month)

Im really getting fed up with this, im not super mario trying to clear levels :\

PS: Everything i could find on LMR did not work at all(the only thing that slightly helped was a freeze out cause she jumped me after 10mins but still couldn't escalate),she is too stubborn,the way i see it i need some heavy artillery for this one.

PPS:Next date is tomorrow,atm im thinking of a complete freeze out but i would like to get some advice from someone more experienced.

Thanks,

G.I.

 

[MacAvoy]

You've got a long way to go buddy. Expect to put in at least 3 months with a virgin. Thats the minimum, if she's 20 or older, it'll likely take you 6 months and I even doubt she's be willing to do so then. Your only hope is for BJ's & backdoor action.

How old is she, how old are you? Where did you meet her, is she religious?

I've never had a virgin so I'd probably waste my time but I've seen and heard hundreds of posts on here from guys who've been there say walk away, its not worth the hassle. If you are lucky and succeed, it will be the sh1ttiest lay you ever have.

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

We're 20,thing is i already stated im nexting her at the beggining of next month if nothing happens.As for the bad lay,i could always train her

I met her through mutual friends and she started asking around about me and begging our common friends to hook me up with her.She's not religious.

I wouldn't mind if she hold the pink a bit more and gave the rest(she's not the only one im seeing ) but thing is im pretty tired of doing this video-game like crap.

 

[MacAvoy]

I don't know if this will work but tell her that you respect her choice to be a virgin still and that you really care about her, however you want to continue to pursue this but let her know that she has to be willing to compromise as well and help you out in other ways if she wants to hold onto the pink for a little while longer.

Hopefully after having her service you in other ways, she'll let you maybe go down on her (explain to her that you won't try to penetrate her) after doing that and all the other activities after a while, she might open up and go all the way.

 

[DonJuanit0]

Till now I've been with two virgins cause of my age I guess (19) Well the toughest one was the second one! It took me about 2 weeks or less! Well the whole point is making her feel like she's gonna ***! If you make her feel like she really wants it in her ***** it's a "won game"! How to do this... Well, you could tell her that you would like to satisfy her too! Licking her ***** or something! I wouldn't but it's certainly a way to make her 1) undress 2) reach that place! You can penatrate her so hard that she WILL need your c*ck! You can try to be more romantic! Girls fall for these sh1t! It wasn't so difficult for me! Probably cause of the girls... Keep trying...


DonJuanit0 out...

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

That seems logical but it is terribly out of my character,might try an altered version after i try to escalate and she refuses , out of the blue is kinda weird. The plan i've made so far is to totally freeze out on her tomorrow and see from there on.I don't see virgins as any special case, when the shield cannot be penetrated ill just hit harder.I need to confirm if it is the right way to go about it (if the fear of losing me will overcome the grip on her v-card).So far i used it successfully for LMR and "training" of other girls but it was significantly easier,as you noted it seems it's too much hassle so that's why ill try some of the "extreme" stuff.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

You've got a long way to go buddy. Expect to put in at least 3 months with a virgin. Thats the minimum, if she's 20 or older, it'll likely take you 6 months and I even doubt she's be willing to do so then. Your only hope is for BJ's & backdoor action.

How old is she, how old are you? Where did you meet her, is she religious?

I've never had a virgin so I'd probably waste my time but I've seen and heard hundreds of posts on here from guys who've been there say walk away, its not worth the hassle. If you are lucky and succeed, it will be the sh1ttiest lay you ever have.

This mans speaks the truth. That has been the case in my experience. From experience I can tell you:

1. It only happened after she saw me being ok with us not being sexual and I started to, in a calmly but sinsere way, tell her It'd be better if we didn't get sexual. I detached the value about bedding a virgin.

2. Not worth the issue, emotionally.

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

Thanks for the input guys, DonJuanito i get her hot and heavy everytime but she is too stubborn,partly it is my fault cause i really give the vibe that im a player (shouldn't open her bra with one hand :\ she kept asking me where i learned that).

So it seems a freezeout is due tomorrow,even though my real question was if i can make her crave it so bad she succumbs,the answers were kinda opposite the one from the other so ill go with a little bit of both.

Ill update you if i have a breakthrough.

 

[DonGorgon]

You are not turning on her mid enough.... i.e. say more smooth stuff to calm her down..

 

[GloriouslyInsane]

Here's an update guys

Did the whole freeze-out,at first she was like "c'mon here" and being cuddly and crap but i held my cool.Next date i went caveman on her,next thing i know im licking her **** and after a while she starts licking my d!ck,she didn't give me a proper bj though and would not let me finger her

Note that she tried giving me handjobs for like 5-10min timespans but could not make me *** (she's getting better though ).

So out of the blue on that night she says she's sorry she could not give me a bj (red flag..) i said there's nothing to be sorry about (afc?).Next day we talked a bit over IM and said she wants me to buy flavoured condoms so she would give me a proper bj (im like wtf?),after a while i find out her problem is the cvm.I refused at the beggining and complied later (i see this one going down in flames anyway).

So im gonna see her on monday,my plan is to freeze-out again (i told her i would bring condoms) and when/if she initiates/asks i will tell her i don't want to wear a condom (she already knows im against condoms for bjs),if she complies and gives me a bj we'll see,if not ill just wait some days,meet up with her and next her (i like closure when nexting).

Good plan?

Thanks in advance.