"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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jdawgmcb

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Don't want this to turn into a PUA argument, so keep it out of this thread.

Anyways, for the last few weeks i've been playing this girl on and off, and I think i'm starting to get some IOIs to show attraction and need to know if I am ready to move to the next stage, or if it's just a "Little Miss Sunshine" approach.

Anyways, the last 2 days, when i was in the middle of my schoolwork, I look up and was able to see her sitting right next to me out of nowhere, which I know is an IOI.

Now, I was wondering if this was an IOI.

She draws "I (then a picture of a heart) and her name" on a piece of paper that i was working on and says, "That's probably what you write all over your house." Naturally, I respond "Well, now, I don't think so..." She then replies "Now, i'm not that conceded!" I then continue to ask her what she did yesterday, bla bla bla, and the period is over.

So tell me, do you think she is at a level of attraction that I am able to make the next move?

Mind you guys, this is high school, and I've never really spent time with her outside of since we were classed together.

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Also, I do not have pics, so don't ask.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Phats

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From my knowledge of this site, not experience, this seems to be a prety big IOI. She seems to have shown you that hoping you would respond postitvely, maybe fishing for confidence with you.

'Now i'm not that conceited'? Is that what you meant?

I would have thought carrying on the banter as opposed to ****ty normal talk about WUBU2 etc would have been better eg. 'Hmm, you seemed pretty sure of yourself drawing that. Do you do this to all guys or am I just an exception? (Said with a grin).

Should get her all flustered.

As far as 'making the next move' goes, if any respected board member read this they would reply with 'get her number, ask her to meet up', so I'm gonna go with that.
 
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"I'm not that conceded!"

Don't move in, she's a moron.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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She wants you.

Any relationship based in highschool classrooms follows the same basic progression:

  1. Seeing the girl
  2. Introductory chat
  3. Establishing interest
  4. Securing a number
  5. The setup date
  6. ???????
  7. Sexy time

Number 3 can be a pitfall, that moment when the choice is made: are you a friend or are you a lover?

The litany of options presented on this website (kino, eye contact, CF, etc.) will help you direct this defining point to where you want it to go. Right now, you seem to be getting an extension. She's interested as hell mate, or she would've settled you in as a friend by now.

Touch her arm, feel the situation, ask for a number and leave her wanting more. It's your moment.
 
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