im in stuck in the friend zone. i had placed myself there about 5 years ago. due to the female being in a relationship. we always maintained contact but haven't hung out till this past weekend. we when to a club and dance and drank. i used all my move she knew what my intent was. there was great sexual kino and energy. the night ended with a kiss on the check and "see you soon babe". i continued to flirt the next day and she would lol and say thank you. but then she became unresponsive. my friend that was with us asked her the next day whats up with us. she said we are not an item just friends. i want to seal the deal. and not seem desperate. i also think that the third party is trying to move in. what should i do?
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First of all, you have a wrong state of mind by thinking that if you try to seal the deal you'll seem desperate! If you act like an AFC you'll come off like desperate if you don't you'll just have tried and maybe failed, nothing's wrong with it! The only way I see is to ask her out again, initiate kino and staff and go for it! No one can assure you that she'll say yes or no! You just have to try as a man... Btw, I personally don't believe there is an actual friend zone (it's just a way of women keeping men they don't want away) so try not to think about it and just go for it! You may lose nothing! 
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When you two were drunk you should've started making out with her in the club. Done this with two girls who I was friends with for 5 years. Just go out with her again, and get her drunk again. But this time, don't fvck up.
Hangout in the club, get tipsy and flirty with eachother.. Maybe even start making out with her. Go on the walk and isolate her somewhere where you two can go further.. (Car, apartment, public bathroom, WHEREVER). After this, she'll get all hot and bothered just thinking about you.
The only way you'll look desperate is if you ask her to be your girlfriend the next day lol. If she says anything weird about it to you just tell her it's all in fun. Cause that's what making out/sex is when it comes down to it.. FUN!
Hangout in the club, get tipsy and flirty with eachother.. Maybe even start making out with her. Go on the walk and isolate her somewhere where you two can go further.. (Car, apartment, public bathroom, WHEREVER). After this, she'll get all hot and bothered just thinking about you.
The only way you'll look desperate is if you ask her to be your girlfriend the next day lol. If she says anything weird about it to you just tell her it's all in fun. Cause that's what making out/sex is when it comes down to it.. FUN!
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As was said earlier there is no friend zone. Always remember that. What you should be doing is making a move on her... What you're experiencing is similar to what I've seen in the past and this is what I mean:
1) What she says to other people about you is irrelevant... "oh he's just a friend!", "oh I wouldn't go out with him!"... Sometimes she might.actually be repulsed by you, but just trust.me when.I.say the things a girl tells her friends/other people about her feelings for you is often either meaningless or untrue. She can find you attractive and still tell her friends she thinks you're ugly.
2) What you experienced with her little kiss and flirting is something that holds true for practically all women. That is, in the heat of the moment a girl will be willing to go MUCH further with you than perhaps she has said.
What you should do:
Take her clubbing again, get her drunk, but this time you need to take things to the next level... Oh she kissed you on the cheek% Why didn't YOU take things further. I don't care that it was only a peck if she's okay to kiss you and is being flirty I am certain if you had started escalating she would've let you take it further. As has been suggested make out with her in the club. What she said to your friend about you two being "just friends", it means absolutely nothing, believe me.
You got this one in the bag trust me. The ONLY girls you have ZERO chance with are the ones who aren't comfortable with your touch in any way at all. If they aren't even okay with giving you a hug then there's something seriously wrong and she finds you repulsive, so you'd need to do a lot of work in that case, but with the majority of girls you can **** them by just escalating.
Sorry for ****ed up spelling and grammar I'm on a smartphone and typing out essays is a real b1tch.
As was said earlier there is no friend zone. Always remember that. What you should be doing is making a move on her... What you're experiencing is similar to what I've seen in the past and this is what I mean:
1) What she says to other people about you is irrelevant... "oh he's just a friend!", "oh I wouldn't go out with him!"... Sometimes she might.actually be repulsed by you, but just trust.me when.I.say the things a girl tells her friends/other people about her feelings for you is often either meaningless or untrue. She can find you attractive and still tell her friends she thinks you're ugly.
2) What you experienced with her little kiss and flirting is something that holds true for practically all women. That is, in the heat of the moment a girl will be willing to go MUCH further with you than perhaps she has said.
What you should do:
Take her clubbing again, get her drunk, but this time you need to take things to the next level... Oh she kissed you on the cheek% Why didn't YOU take things further. I don't care that it was only a peck if she's okay to kiss you and is being flirty I am certain if you had started escalating she would've let you take it further. As has been suggested make out with her in the club. What she said to your friend about you two being "just friends", it means absolutely nothing, believe me.
You got this one in the bag trust me. The ONLY girls you have ZERO chance with are the ones who aren't comfortable with your touch in any way at all. If they aren't even okay with giving you a hug then there's something seriously wrong and she finds you repulsive, so you'd need to do a lot of work in that case, but with the majority of girls you can **** them by just escalating.
Sorry for ****ed up spelling and grammar I'm on a smartphone and typing out essays is a real b1tch.