Need help relatively quickly please!!!

[MurdocIsGod]

Okay guys, this involves two different girls I will explain both situations separately but hopefully something can be sorted because I am meant to be seeing them soon.

Girl 1

Me and her were hardcore flirting since December. She used to strip for me a lot on webcam. We spoke about ****ing a lot, agreed to ****ing each other which was meant to have happened over Easter.

Anyway I only see her on holidays and I didn't go that time so it never materialized.

For some reason she became more distant afterwards. Not sure why as I legit couldn't make it to meet up with her. I have still been flirting with her but she hasn't got naked on cam again for me since then, and isn't into the sex talk with me. I'm meant to be seeing her the day after tomorrow in the morning, I can only speak to her via text until then. She may decline my request to meet up which I think maybe she will at the moment.

Need help on getting this girl to come over. I tried reigniting her mood texting her about her sexual fantasies but she just replied saying "I'm out x". Not messaging her until tomorrow night.


Girl 2

Similar situation to the above but purely flirting rather than stripping. Says she doesn't want to **** but said she was up for fooling around. I invited her over this morning but she couldn't make it she had to go out with family (we're 19 and still live with parents etc). The day before, similarly she wasn't able to come when I was available. She keeps asking me to go meet up with her in casual ways (i.e. not coming to mine but wants me to go meet her at the pool) but so far I haven't, I want her to come to me.

I am going to try and get her over tomorrow morning. I was thinking maybe pretending it's a casual meet, e.g. "come over we can watch this awesome movie". I think her excuses were legit but also think she didn't really want to come over the last times.

 

[Matthew Lyon]

You may not want to hear this, but I'll give you a piece of solid advice:

Drop the games and start being more honest.

These girls see right through you whether you realize it or not. They know all of your intentions. There's a reason they're not making themselves available to you.

If you try to ACT like who you are as opposed to BE who you are, you will fail.

 

[oneboy21]

Mistake: why do you want a girl come over to your place in the first
You need to develop some rapport and Kino
when you do that, they feel like they know you better
flirting and stripping on cam is for fun, but still its distant
You need to go on a date, which would be at their location or a common location.

 

[MurdocIsGod]

They know all of your intentions.

I've been straight up about my intentions with them so this is obvious

 

[Matthew Lyon]

I've been straight up about my intentions with them so this is obvious

I did read everything you wrote, in fact twice. And like I said, you're not being honest with yourself and with these girls. Look at the underlying message of all of your interactions with them, not just the words you say.

 

[MurdocIsGod]

Mistake: why do you want a girl come over to your place in the first
You need to develop some rapport and Kino
when you do that, they feel like they know you better
flirting and stripping on cam is for fun, but still its distant
You need to go on a date, which would be at their location or a common location.

I have met them both in real life before. I can meet up with the second girl, and will inevitably be meeting the first.

 

[MurdocIsGod]

I did read everything you wrote, in fact twice. And like I said, you're not being honest with yourself and with these girls. Look at the underlying message of all of your interactions with them, not just the words you say.

Can you explain please?

I literally told them what I want to do with them and when I want to do it. Not sure what you mean?

What do you suggest I do from this point?

 

[Matthew Lyon]

Can you explain please?

I literally told them what I want to do with them and when I want to do it. Not sure what you mean?

What do you suggest I do from this point?

To simplify the matter, these girls are playing games and not availing themselves to create time to spend with you because you're also playing games with them. Like I said, you're not being honest with yourself. Instead, you're playing games like a child. Women are very, very smart and they know this.

So my suggestion to you is to stop playing games and to start being more honest. If you're still confused, think about it for a while.

 

[MurdocIsGod]

To simplify the matter, these girls are playing games and not availing themselves to create time to spend with you because you're also playing games with them. Like I said, you're not being honest with yourself. Instead, you're playing games like a child. Women are very, very smart and they know this.

So my suggestion to you is to stop playing games and to start being more honest. If you're still confused, think about it for a while.

Lol what you're playing games with me not telling me what you're on about you need to start being more honest with me! hahaha...

I have thought about it and I don't understand how I can be more "honest" with them than overtly telling them I'll **** them and I want them to come over for sex. Girl number two wants to spend time with me but won't come round, she keeps asking me to meet her at the club and stuff but in all honesty it'd feel a little awkward because of the tension from what we've been messaging each other. I will definitely be seeing her on tuesday but I'd much prefer her to come over and get right into it without having to meet and act like nothing's happened. When I was in high school I had the same thing but I was forced to confront them before ****ing. All discomfort went the moment they spoke to me but meh, I dunno... I could go meet up with her right now in fact but again, it'd be a casual meet and no opportunity to close.

With the first girl she was hot for it but then cooled down which annoys me. Not my fault I couldn't make the initial meet. She would message me every single day I even had to make a separate Facebook group for her so I could appear offline to her . But now nothing. Urgh. She still messages me occassionally but I have to make more of an effort. ***** gone cold.

 

[Matthew Lyon]

Lol what you're playing games with me not telling me what you're on about you need to start being more honest with me! hahaha...

I have thought about it and I don't understand how I can be more "honest" with them than overtly telling them I'll **** them and I want them to come over for sex. Girl number two wants to spend time with me but won't come round, she keeps asking me to meet her at the club and stuff but in all honesty it'd feel a little awkward because of the tension from what we've been messaging each other. I will definitely be seeing her on tuesday but I'd much prefer her to come over and get right into it without having to meet and act like nothing's happened. When I was in high school I had the same thing but I was forced to confront them before ****ing. All discomfort went the moment they spoke to me but meh, I dunno... I could go meet up with her right now in fact but again, it'd be a casual meet and no opportunity to close.

With the first girl she was hot for it but then cooled down which annoys me. Not my fault I couldn't make the initial meet. She would message me every single day I even had to make a separate Facebook group for her so I could appear offline to her . But now nothing. Urgh. She still messages me occassionally but I have to make more of an effort. ***** gone cold.

Women desire sex as much as men do, if not more. Believe me, these girls want you in bed. I'm going to guess that they've gone as far as to masturbate to the thought of you. But what they don't want is a guy who doesn't respect and appreciate them. You've heard, "Women don't want to feel like sexual objects". Well, it's true. And you're treating them as such by your intentions and actions. Like I said, you're not being honest. You're veering more toward being manipulative; playing games.

If you want to bed these girls, then do what Jesus said: Love your brothers and sisters. Love these women and the sex will naturally happen and without "awkward moments".

 

[MurdocIsGod]

You've heard, "Women don't want to feel like sexual objects". Well, it's true.

Oh I understand I have been honest which is why I didn't get you, but seeing this I think I get what's going on. :yes: Maybe I'll just have a casual talk to them both, ask them how thing's are going, not just jumping in going "LET'S ****!" (I didn't actually say that just so you know) without talking. But if anything I have been MORE honest by displaying I just want to ****. Haha.

I also had similar suspicions about what you said. The second girl is apprehensive about coming over though I do talk to her in a casual way about how she's doing and what not. I think her reasoning has been legit like I said, but I also think she's genuinely apprehensive. What I'm thinking is...

I'll chat the first girl normally, haven't had a chat with her in a while without jumping into the sex thing so maybe that's what she's after. Show that I'm not treating her like a sexual object.

As for the second one I'm less sure. I may ask her to hang, then when she says yes, be like, "okay come over you need to play Spyro with me " or some corny ****. Movie may sound a bit... Yeah... I think everyone knows movie is code for sex. How to initiate from there? I've already built things up with her. She said she wants me to spank her over my knee. Not sure how I'll get into that... That's assuming she'd accept my offer to come over.

 

[Matthew Lyon]

Oh I understand I have been honest which is why I didn't get you, but seeing this I think I get what's going on. :yes: Maybe I'll just have a casual talk to them both, ask them how thing's are going, not just jumping in going "LET'S ****!" (I didn't actually say that just so you know) without talking. But if anything I have been MORE honest by displaying I just want to ****. Haha.

I also had similar suspicions about what you said. The second girl is apprehensive about coming over though I do talk to her in a casual way about how she's doing and what not. I think her reasoning has been legit like I said, but I also think she's genuinely apprehensive. What I'm thinking is...

I'll chat the first girl normally, haven't had a chat with her in a while without jumping into the sex thing so maybe that's what she's after. Show that I'm not treating her like a sexual object.

As for the second one I'm less sure. I may ask her to hang, then when she says yes, be like, "okay come over you need to play Spyro with me " or some corny ****. Movie may sound a bit... Yeah... I think everyone knows movie is code for sex. How to initiate from there? I've already built things up with her. She said she wants me to spank her over my knee. Not sure how I'll get into that... That's assuming she'd accept my offer to come over.

Just know that how you act and your intentions are what matter more than what you say. You can ask a girl, "How are you? How was your day? What's new?" and if you're not being fully honest, present, and have a genuine desire to know her better, she will sense it. Focus more on "carrying" your emotions and the rest will happen naturally.

She definitely wants sex. But like I said, she wants you to love her. And by love, I do not mean, "Let's be boyfriend and girlfriend!". Not at all. Love is simply complete acceptance of others and showing a genuine curiosity for them.

Follow this advice and I can almost guarantee you'll get one or both of these girls, and possibly a 3-some, if that's their thing.

 

[MurdocIsGod]

Update:
****ed girl 2. Asked her over to "play PS1", then never played PS1 (didn't plan on it) and boned her instead.

Now time to try and bang the first girl too.

 

[Gam]

I think the second girl is going to be a bit more difficult. This because while she was stripping for you there was a sexual build up of expectation and desire. And even though your not being able to see her was legit, that didn't stop momentum from declining. You're either gonna have to give her a break or find a way to up her interest levels again.

Am rooting for ya

 

[Matthew Lyon]

Update:
****ed girl 2. Asked her over to "play PS1", then never played PS1 (didn't plan on it) and boned her instead.

Now time to try and bang the first girl too.

Out of curiosity, did you follow my advice?

 

[Iceberg]

Out of curiosity, did you follow my advice?

I hope not. Because it was a bunch of vague mumbo jumbo.

 

[Matthew Lyon]

I hope not. Because it was a bunch of vague mumbo jumbo.

I'd have to agree. I need to work on how to present more concise solutions.

 

[MurdocIsGod]

Out of curiosity, did you follow my advice?

Uhm I did try a more casual approach to talking with them and toned down the sex-talk, though I didn't quite understand what you were saying?

As for the second girl. Same **** she's busy. I just messaged her saying if she's gone off the idea of banging it's fine and I don't mind, but she said she hasn't, so meh, she's busy every day though. I know she legit IS busy because she keeps going out to mutual friend's birthday parties and going to town and stuff. But whatever, I'll ask her over on Friday, in the meantime I have this blonde girl to hit on

Oh and it's really annoying because I always see this stunner of a girl, she hangs around the same people I do, but she's so uninterested in me, it sucks. Then again she's very shallow (Spanish descent I think, so yeah you know how it is) so that could be why, as in her standards are so high that anything below an 8/10 isn't good enough. Personality is irrelevant to her... Then they all end up making her cry because they're "being pricks" or whatever