"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Need help please.. When friendship turned to a different kind of love..

`Beren

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I salute you all friends!

I need some help about a matter in my life..Im gonna make the long story, short and here is goes: My best girl friend and i hav..err.. had been friends for over a year. Im 19 and she is 18 now. She was in relationship and i saw her with a friendly and caring view from the beginning and thus a friendship bloomed between us. She gave her virginity to that guy and after a while they broke up for misc reasons. Afterwards i have learned that the guy have now told her that he only wanted to f*ck her and that has now made her a bit cautious about sex. Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, while we were laying in my bed and just talking something happened, and we kissed. I had just gotten back from a bad relationship that actually burned my hopes for love as i have always believed in. And as i said we kissed with my friend.. That kinda opened the doors of my soul for a hope of love. I basicly see a last chance of saving my feelings and beliefs in her now.. We have talked a bit and after we decided nothing was to happen cause she wasnt ready and sure, a bit cause she dont want our friendship to end, and she is afraid of me leaving her life. That f*cked me up psycologically. But the day after we were in my bed again and we kissed again. Even more passionately.. And longer.. and this time we both knew what we were doing.. And i slept peacefully that night, for the first time after a long time.. but again, she started having doubts. I understand her. Btw im a virgin, and due to many baad experiences, i find it hard to trust someone. So between me and my friend i find it perfect for us, and i could really trust her and since she trusts me, i could hopefully make her believe again. I want her really bad, but i dont want to make any fast movements.. And i dont want a short relationship with her. If it doesnt sound too crazy, i wouldnt mind spending my life with her. Any comments, ideas or anything what i should do to make her mine? Soon im getting a apartment and she'll probably be spending a good deal of time there.. I need to make her forget her ex and find that love and trust in me.. Please help me im really desperate..

thanks a lot.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Kineti[C]harm

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just one question... Why are you afraid sex will ruin your friendship? Some of my best female friends are former sexpartners....

Don't be so nervous or don't care that much, let it play out naturally and just do fun and sensual things that make her forgett her worries.
 

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basicly this isnt about sex. its not about sex coming naturally. its about our feelings to unite naturally together. in a balance. and i ask if there is something i could do to help this come? any moves? anything i shouldnt absolutely do?
 

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Take things slowly.

Don't rush into anything to quickly - don't feel any pressure in having sex - but at the same time, don't be afraid to express yourself with her - kissing her, touching her etc.

If you want this to work, just make sure your not the rebound guy...
 

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yeah well her "best" friends are talking to the guy and they are kinda trying to make them get back together but after getting the guy a bit drunk i was able to make him speak to me and i found out he just want to f*ck her again, information that i told to the girl i like.:cool: i dont think that they'll get back together cause the whole sutuation for them is screwed up. btw her parents like me a whole deal and from time to time i speak with her mom. think i should use that?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
just one question... Why are you afraid sex will ruin your friendship? Some of my best female friends are former sexpartners....

Don't be so nervous or don't care that much, let it play out naturally and just do fun and sensual things that make her forgett her worries.
How do you work that?

all my ex partners give me very biased advice regarding future relationships etc.

Basically once they want me they get very jealous etc.

And the ones I wanted the same but in reverse.
 
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