"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Need help on what to do with moody hot chick.

johnnyrem

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I'll try to keep it brief.

I've had the opportunity to slightly get to know a hot (very) chick that is notorious at our gym for her looks, most excellent body and her non talkativeness and moodiness. This is such that most guys don't approach her- she's often head down, focused on her lifting, and non communicative.

Through a few circumstances and chance encounters, I've had some relatively extended conversations with her that the other guys have noticed and commented on ("Dude-she talks to you!). She "invites" me to conversation in very, very subtle ways that are difficult to pick up on and irregular in frequency/timing. Half the time I'm not so sure of these signs myself except for the fact she's talking to me after I initiate. When she's not in conversational mode there's no question of approaching - the body language is completely OFF, as in DO NOT APPROACH.

Call it a mega ***** shield.

She can be quite friendly to me and has been lately, and after our chance non-gym encounter she stated she "had fun hanging out with me." Sounded like a possible AI to me, and I was warming up to ask her for a coffee date. Yeah, she's that attractive and I can't help myself. Build wise, I am in her league. I've been bodybuilding myself for quite a while and walk the walk.

Then, you guessed it, she went into DO NOT APPROACH mode. A little emboldened by our past conversations, I hadn't seen her body language before I went over to say hi, and she completely ignored my conversational greeting. Not used to being completely ignored, I playfully slapped at her slightly with my towel in reaction to her non-response, and her reply in a low voice was, "Sorry. I'm in a mood." When I responded, "Bad day?" she said nothing. I left her alone after that.

I don't necessarily think it's directed at me. I've seen these before.

It's (moodiness) lasted these last two times (2 weeks) at the gym. I kept away the 2nd time.

So the question(s): Do you find most very hot chicks you know are like this?

I'll have to be honest. I makes me question whether she's like this no matter who she's with or what she's doing - she just feels like it, and gets away with it. I'm gonna try asking anyway if the timing is right as I have nothing to lose, but just as I was feeling I might have a little higher status with her I discover I might not be immune from the wrath of her moods.

How to handle it if/when she gives the slight "approach invitation" again? Bust her a little for her behavior? Drop it/don't mention it?

Truthfully it's rude if this behavior is demonstrated by a hot chick, ordinary guy or whoever, in my opinion. I'm a little put off by it and I have a realistic view of what life must be like with this woman. You'd have to have serious stones to approach this chick when she's acting "friendly" which in casual observation isn't very friendly at all. Forget "Do NOT APPROACH" mode. If she had a flamethrower nobody would survive.

I'm intrigued, and a bit stupid, I confess.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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KontrollerX

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Well its in a gym.

Maybe she's in the zone lol.

Anyway sounds like she's interested in ya, just keep working on her.
 

STR8UP

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Why on earth would you want to even get to know a woman like this?
 

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i'll say this a thousand times if i say it once: moody chics make for the best lays but make for the absolute worst partners in a relationship.

with these chics - screw 'em don't woo 'em.
 

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"Sorry. I'm in a mood."

bad, bad, bad sign imo
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Sounds like she has some serious issues in her life. Her personality doesn't sound on par with her looks.
 

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joekerr31 said:
i'll say this a thousand times if i say it once: moody chics make for the best lays but make for the absolute worst partners in a relationship.

with these chics - screw 'em don't woo 'em.
YES!

And I think that's because(at least on my part) when a woman is a "b*tch" and is HOT, it makes me wanna f*ck her more. So I guess it's not just a woman thing, where only women are turned on by abbrasive behavior. Not that I approve of b*tch behavior, I think it's downright wrong for any woman to be nasty, but I have to admit, it is sexually arousing. lol. I would also never get into a relationship with such a woman, but to f*ck, and cvm all over her face and body, absolutely!

When I go out and I come across b*tchy looking chicks, I usually try to game 'em.
 

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Guys, I dunno why.

I guess because just before our old gym went bust and we had to go looking for another, I got a long eye contact from her on her way out (like three seconds) before the doors closed for good that night. So I was like "WTF did that come from?" I hadn't made any moves on her before. In fact, in a way I'm like her, as I don't hit on women at the gym. I'm there to work out.

I shrugged it off. It wasn't like I was gonna see her again.

Then, she showed up at the gym I was at six months later. After some non-conversation, I caught her looking up obliquely, which seems to be all the AI a hot chick will give and I said, "where ya been?". We started talking more frequently after that.

When she's on, which has been most of the time lately, she can be quite engaging. And she's a workout Nazi, as am I. And she's damn, damn attractive.

And, like I said, I'm curious. And stupid. And I decided the IOI I've had was as good as it was gonna get with her (haven't seen other guys even attempt anything with her), and I had to make my move or wonder forever. Then I hit the moodiness block.

This behavior seems to fit in with the thread "Why are women crazy" that is elsewhere on the forum. Believe me, I am aware of her downside in her public personality and the problems that can/will bring. If there's continued disrespect I'll give up.

We always talk about how the multiple hoops women try to get you to jump through can be a bad thing, yet here I am. I would expect them to try to put a fella off initially as a **** test.

Trust me, I'm keeping away as long as she's moody. If I don't get one of her very subtle AI's, I'm staying away and she can ponder the error of her ways, if she cares. She may not care if she's acting *****y, or is spinning many plates. I can't imagine zillions of guys asking her for a date - her DON'T APPROACH body language is on most of the time. The few times it's not I'm still one of the very few she talks with. When I saw her in public (the chance encounter) there was no boyfriend in sight at a locale where, if she had one, she most certainly would have brought him along.

Where I'm asking for help is that I don't game many very hot chicks and wondered if this is par for the course with them. I usually stick with the cute but friendly types, but I gotta get out of my comfort zone occasionally to maybe up my game a bit.

Guys, in this I hope you can understand. I gotta do something different every once in a while just as a part of life.

So, you serious gamers, please weigh in.

STR8UP, I understand the logic of your comment very well and, like you, have decided I may not want this chick after this most recent episode. I'm trying to find out if this moodiness is a recurrent theme with everybody, including her significant other or interests. I don't know of any boyfriends or ex'es and can't ask any other people about her-no one knows any more than I do.

Other opinions/advice, especially as to gaming, are of course very welcome.
 
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