"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Need help on this girl

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Hey guys,

I went with this girl to homecoming. She's a HB8.5. Anyways, I went with her to the dance, had some fun, but came off like a lame. We did the whole grinding thing for 2 dances, but she's not really one to grind and all. So when I asked her to the dance, I am pretty sure I was in the friend zone. I asked her and now that I look back on it, I came off like an insecure chump when I asked her. No confidence at all.

I am good with the C&F, the push/pull, etc. But I have trouble doing stuff like dances or social events where you have to be there with a bunch of people (i know no one gives a **** because they're busy grindin). Everyone knows me at school and I'm a pretty popular guy, but I am not jock if you know what I mean. Everyone respects me, but I am not one of those guys that the girls swoon over.

So I can make her laugh, she knows I have a sensitive side, but mostly I am a jokester/smart ass/intelligent guy. I have a feeling she thinks i'm weak because she jokes about beating me up even though I am bigger than her (taller, muscles)

So that is background info. I know it's a bit long but I don't really know how to proceed with this girl. What should I do, how should I act around her? I have no classes with her, but I run into her once in a while. She is not stuck up at all so I want to keep the negs at a minimum. C&F works well with her and she gives C&F back too.

Thanks in advance.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If you want her, go after her. You already know about her so there is a stable platform to build on. You just got to show the initiative because it is expected that the man shows the interest first when trying to start a relationship.
 

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ok I got her number already. I guess I should go for a date.

There are 2 other guys pursuing her. 1 guy she tells me she wants to leave her alone. Another dude she rejected because he came on too strong. and then there is me lol.

I'm not sure what to do because I am PRETTY SURE I'm in the friend zone here. I've known this girl since freshman year.

we are going to get together next friday for something. I forgot what it was though damn
 

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You need to start showing that you want to be more than just a friend and show that initiative like I said!
 

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Originally posted by dementia
Couple things u gotta do as a DJ.

1) Dont giv a fvck about the other guys. Dont ASK or TALK about them. Cos once she notices you doing this shes gonna b*tchtest you to see if you really are better then they are.

2) ASSUME SHE LIEKS YOU, and ASSUME YOU ARE THE BEST GUY, and act accordingly.

Non of this. I think im a friend BS. You are MAN dude and she is a woman. Set it up. Ask her on a date, go someplace and get the conversation in the right place and kiss test her.

Thats it.
Then touch her boob. Just kidding he's right. Be ready for that b*tchtest, I'm going through one perhaps right now.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by dementia
Couple things u gotta do as a DJ.

1) Dont giv a fvck about the other guys. Dont ASK or TALK about them. Cos once she notices you doing this shes gonna b*tchtest you to see if you really are better then they are.

2) ASSUME SHE LIEKS YOU, and ASSUME YOU ARE THE BEST GUY, and act accordingly.

Non of this. I think im a friend BS. You are MAN dude and she is a woman. Set it up. Ask her on a date, go someplace and get the conversation in the right place and kiss test her.

Thats it.
that is gold man. thanks a lot. can you explain how to "kiss test" her? I'm not too clear on that.

No more "just friends" bs you're right. I want her and she probably wants me too because I know I am the best guy out of us three. Why did I ever doubt myself.

edit: oh yeah waht kind of *****test are we talking about here. can i have an example and how to deal with it?
 

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nice one . I like the eskimo one a lot. I'll just lay one on her when the time is right. I got this
 
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