Need Help ON the Part After Getting the Number....

[KneghtRyder]

MY WEAKEST Part of my game is the part After I get the NUMBER.

I JUST AM NOT CLEARLY SEEing the next goals ..

I just want to get her in to bed, I am not sure whats the best way ....

so I guess, the first part is be really persistent or what ever you want to do, but get her to do Something with you..

either go for a coffee, run errands whatever you can , but GEt her to met you , be persistent.

when you met her, I guess you need to, firstly make sure you are looking your best but at the same time, DRESS Well,I guess just really be a good conversationalist with her on the first date...and drop her off.. (but at the same time no your not in the mindset of quickly getting her number, as mystery says"you've demostrated value, thats how you got the number, but now you show interest' >.)

I guess, my assumption now, is that if your both 'clicking' or put in another way she feels comfortable being around /with you...the SEX will eventually happen as you met on further dates you start touching her more and eventually it happens ..as the dates go on... keep escalating kino, from hand holding, to shoulders etc and kissing..

 

[L777]

Hey, I have the exact same problem....numbers and makeouts (at parties and clubs) all the time...but a small % turn into lays.

You said yourself that you just wanna get laid, and I'm the same way....so basically we just look at the girl like a piece of meat, and I believe they can sense this.

Focus on makking a GENUINE connection, **** it, fake it if yiu have to, but don't just be obsessed with the sex.....cos it probably won't happen if thats all you're in it for. Just enjoy every interaction, live in the moment, and if she's attracted (which she probs is if you got her number) then it will happen naturally.

Easier said than done I know, my sex drive is higher than my people skills....but I believe that that is the problem and this is the way to solve it. Just treat her as you would treat a friend BUT with kino, and all the other things that PU teaches.

Does that make sense....I hope you get my point.

 

[KneghtRyder]

i think we're on agreement on this. I think that for a guy whose first time or second partner in his life, that you can't go there aiming to get it done so quickly, that you need to understand that it may be a slow process with multiple dates, that there may need to be a time where your building a connection with the person..and like you said just enjoy the dating etc and not be so sex focused..when you can find that girl who is willing to give you a couple dates then you do the whole kino routine etc and finally get the booty.

 

[L777]

i think we're on agreement on this. I think that for a guy whose first time or second partner in his life, that you can't go there aiming to get it done so quickly, that you need to understand that it may be a slow process with multiple dates, that there may need to be a time where your building a connection with the person..and like you said just enjoy the dating etc and not be so sex focused..when you can find that girl who is willing to give you a couple dates then you do the whole kino routine etc and finally get the booty.

Yea...thinking about it, the vast majority of my lays have been when I wasn't caring about outcome, seriously. Last week at a party when the party was winding down, I approached this girl just for fun, I actually thought she was on her way home....we ending up in the closet together. When I'm really thinking to myself..."I need to do A,B and then C to get this girl into bed" is when I have less success.

I think we need to strike a balance between conciously thinking about what to say and going with the flow. I'm only 20 and have a long time to get this right....so I'm not complaining too much

 

[Unl1m1t3d]

Focus on makking a GENUINE connection, **** it, fake it if yiu have to, but don't just be obsessed with the sex.....cos it probably won't happen if thats all you're in it for. Just enjoy every interaction, live in the moment, and if she's attracted (which she probs is if you got her number) then it will happen naturally.

Does that make sense....I hope you get my point.

Don't fake it, cause if you fake it, it's not genuine. You should already have some sort of common ground already, considering she gave you her number, just keep building on that. If you know some of her interests, Google them and look over them for like 5 minutes to help you in the conversation. Also another thing that might help is "taking care of business" in the morning if you have a date at night, so that way your not quite obsessed with getting laid, but charged up enough so that if it happens your ready to go.

 

[ILikeGirls<3]

I'm just curious since I am a college student, L777, what kind of party and where was it that you go this girl to lay you? Was it a frat party or a house party or something else? I have never been to a frat party, only a few house parties, and I didnt get opportunities to lay any drunk girls, so I am thinking of joining a frat if thats where the horny girls are.

 

[ready123]

pretty good insight L777. yeah if you get the makeout but not the lay, it's most likely because you have a playa vibe and she doesn't entirely trust you

and I also noticed the same thing - when your game is on, it feels effortless because you've shut the logical part of your brain down. you're not trying to consciously run game in real-time, it just happens because your subconscious is sensitive to the vibe of the interaction, you're totally in the moment

and have fun in college man, i miss those days

 

[L777]

I'm just curious since I am a college student, L777, what kind of party and where was it that you go this girl to lay you? Was it a frat party or a house party or something else? I have never been to a frat party, only a few house parties, and I didnt get opportunities to lay any drunk girls, so I am thinking of joining a frat if thats where the horny girls are.

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Just a regular house party man. Keep in mind I'm English so there's always a little bit of attraction with most American girls to the accent.

You just have to push it when you know you won't see them again. We were making out on the dancefloor in the basement, and I just told her, "we should carry this on in the bedroom", she was like, "ummmm...ahhhhh", so I grabbed her by the hand and led her up there. I thought we might have caught in the bedroom, so the closet was where I led her after that.

 

[Mad Manic]

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Just a regular house party man. Keep in mind I'm English so there's always a little bit of attraction with most American girls to the accent.

You just have to push it when you know you won't see them again. We were making out on the dancefloor in the basement, and I just told her, "we should carry this on in the bedroom", she was like, "ummmm...ahhhhh", so I grabbed her by the hand and led her up there. I thought we might have caught in the bedroom, so the closet was where I led her after that.

Ahhhhh you're on a year abroad in America! Interesting! For some reason I always thought american girls were easier to lay, that's what I've heard. Currently I know nobody who gets laid over here barring one or two tops, so for some reason this post explains some of the stuff I thought.

MM

 

[L777]

Ahhhhh you're on a year abroad in America! Interesting! For some reason I always thought american girls were easier to lay, that's what I've heard. Currently I know nobody who gets laid over here barring one or two tops, so for some reason this post explains some of the stuff I thought.

MM

I actually think its harder here. Yea, girls think its cute and everything, and it will get you a lot of friends and attention at parties....but I think a lot of the girls think, "Oh, he won't be around much longer, I'm not gonna do anything with him". And a lot are Catholic and are lot are very naieve.

Opening: easier
Closing: harder

 

[Mad Manic]

I actually think its harder here. Yea, girls think its cute and everything, and it will get you a lot of friends and attention at parties....but I think a lot of the girls think, "Oh, he won't be around much longer, I'm not gonna do anything with him". And a lot are Catholic and are lot are very naieve.

Opening: easier
Closing: harder

Much longer? You're there till the summer, what are they expecting, marriage? Lol. I dunno but I hardly know anyone who gets laid over here and I hear stuff and it's usually in the US (off the forums etc) so I thought they were more promiscuous. My friend from the gym lived in American for a few years and said he did much better with women, said it was 'damn difficult' in the UK.

MM

 

[ILikeGirls<3]

Thanks for the reply. But WTF, all the parties I go to must be too dorky or filled with prudes or something because if like two people make out everyone is like "OMG!" and only one sexing went on between a BF and a GF. I think I just need to party more since I've been to less than 10 in my life. No one is ever down for it though, its always the clubs or just chill and smoke weed, goddamn New Jersey!

 

[L777]

Much longer? You're there till the summer, what are they expecting, marriage? Lol. I dunno but I hardly know anyone who gets laid over here and I hear stuff and it's usually in the US (off the forums etc) so I thought they were more promiscuous. My friend from the gym lived in American for a few years and said he did much better with women, said it was 'damn difficult' in the UK.

MM

Hmmm are you in uni? Its asier there than in 'real life'...but England sucks on the whole in terms of appearance and attitude of girls. I'm gonna move to somewhere cooler when I'm out of uni.

 

[ILikeGirls<3]

Yeah I am in a four year uni, but I commute so I'll get invited to like some dumb **** barbeque i.e. a sausage fest in more ways than one, instead of a crazy party with drunk girls. going to graduate school in one more semester so its gonna be tougher then unless I decide to get a dorm I think I defitely will.

 

[bukowski_merit]

can't really add anything that hasn't been said
but a lot of times the girls are better at kissing than they are at sex anyway
i make my goal most nights just to kiss
it often leads to more, but it's not earth shattering if it doesn't...

 

[Unl1m1t3d]

It seems like a lot of the parties I go to are pretty hit or miss. I have my one main group of friends that I like to go party with and I would say I have a decent track record at closing the deal when I go to parties where the opportunity is there. One thing I find helps is if you have a couple different groups of friends is go party with a different group every once and a while. You get to meet new people and experience different things that way.