"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Need help on approaching

Magnatolia

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Hey All,

I find it impossible to approach a women in public. I'm not into the night club scene, so I'm basically going into the deep end with cold approaches.

I know everyone says that it's a numbers game, which I'm not interested in. But this attitude wouldn't really work in public settings such as train or a bus or whatever, cos women in bars expect to be approached.

I basically am looking for advice on how to break the ice. An example, a girl was sitting opposite me with a thick book it had at least 50 postits on the top but I couldn't open at all, which is normal for me. Anyway something happened and her attention left the book. I asked her what she was reading, but I was so nervous and self-aware that I mumbled and it took her 3 times to understand. Bad move. Anyway, she basically told me she wasn't studying, it was a bible and she was marking off the chapters. Then went back to marking her book.

Obviously I stuffed that one. Most people who are on a train or bus are doing something too, reading a book, studying, listening to music etc.

If you've got example FR's for these type of situations, they would be appreciated. And I would prefer ones that you aren't completely 100% confident in the approach as this isn't me and I need to start approaching in order to increase that confidence level.

I know there are no step by steps for approaches but I'm just looking for some basic advice on how I should be opening. I find that if they open or a friend introduces me to one of their friends I can usually make good conversation. My two biggest problems are the opening of the conversation and actually indicating my interest subtletly without getting friendly and then having to make it obvious that I want a date.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Tomatoes

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use the search funtion on the site. Put Threads started by Username. Fash or Shezz. Check there cold approach FRs. They arer pure class. Gave me alot of confidence as cold approaching is still a ****ty part of my game. I still always seem to choose the friend of a friend option....

I know they will be "over confident" but Shezz made some killer posts on cold approaching with more tips than you will get from everyone online atm.

"Sarging in Nightclubs" was full of good tips by Shezz. Doesnt just apply to nightclubs.

I would get the posts and posts links but A. I cant be arsed B. I want you to look threw them. You will see alot of good stuff there....Trust me!


Sarge On!
 

Soapz

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Hmm, shy now are we?

Now, I personally have no experience just approaching girls in public, but heres something that I think would help you with your anxiety.

Just get a friend and a video camera, and make it your goal to make HILARIOUS stupid clips with both of you, going up to random girls and saying RETARDED things.

Basically, its an EXCUSE to get you to start talking to people, without the expectation that you would be "smooth." After all, you're DELIBERATELY trying to get slapped in the face. :crackup:

Or, if I were doing it, I'd just put on a clown mask with friends, and go up to random people and start chatting. Does nothing to make you a better conversationalist, but at least you're getting over your fears.

Trust me, having retarded friends is one of the best ways to meet new people.

Edit: Something like this-

http://www.bristollair.com/video/i-am-the-future/dressing-gown.html
 
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Magnatolia said:
I basically am looking for advice on how to break the ice
Seriously, next time you see a girl on the bus, just fvcking go up to her and tell her you think she is cute. this isn't rocket science. and don't let idiots like ace of flames tell you otherwise, this is the BEST WAY, just be UPFRONT about what you think of her, it isn't THAT FVCKING HARD
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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