"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Alright, well im a junior in highschool and there is this girl that i am interested in and i have a problem that i dont know what to do with next, i hang out with her on the weekends and we just have small talk and blah blah, and one night it was just me and her, and i kissed her, even though we havent gone on a date or anything, so after that i wanted to get to know her better or whatever, but there are alot of other guys after her, and lately i havent really been talking to her on that level to let her know im interested in her, its like after that kiss we started to talk less i just dont want her to lose interest, and this weekend she has a date with someother dude, i would ask her on a date so fast but i dont have a license, so i dont know what to do wait for the outcome or what, totally lost, if you can help me , and if possible guide me
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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hang out with her on wkends? so go to a movie, or a video game arcade. laugh, kino her, tease her when you beat her. treat her like a bratty little sister at first. than later when getting a bite, sit at right angle at a table, and kino some more. invite her over to your house/room to watch a movie. make your move. dont TELL her how you feel, show it. dont bore her by waiting... "make the ho say no".
 

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that all sounds good but thats what other guys have been doing i want to make my self stand out from the crowd just not sure how...i want to leave a lasting impression everytime i talk to her, whether its at school or at a freinds house and im still kinda confused i kissed her than for some reason we started to talk less how would i bounce back without making my intentions obivous( i want to avoid the freind zone at all cost as well!!! might be in it already...)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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blank slate said:
that all sounds good but thats what other guys have been doing i want to make my self stand out from the crowd just not sure how...i want to leave a lasting impression everytime i talk to her, whether its at school or at a freinds house and im still kinda confused i kissed her than for some reason we started to talk less how would i bounce back without making my intentions obivous( i want to avoid the freind zone at all cost as well!!! might be in it already...)
The stuff that they said earlier about kino, making her laugh, teasing her...that stuff works. Beyond that, you want to be special, right? You want to stand out from the crowd....Well the only way to give off that impression is to actually become special. There's no magic pickup line that's going to accomplish that for you.

If you feel like all the other guys are already showing her all this attention, then back off a bit. Show her that you're chasing other girls, and that you're out in the world doing other cool things. So, while all the other chumps are holding her hand everyday, kissing her a**...you walk in the room, show her a little attention, and then walk away...leaving her to wonder what's so special about you that you aren't standing in line waiting to be with her, like those other guys.
 

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you stand out already, cause most hs juniors who get chicks have cars & jobs. why dont you? at least a license? cmon, get with it
 

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i have a permit but thats all i guess i grew up in the shiittiest era ever to get a car and a job if your young, so i would have to come up with a method that doesnt involve me driving, double date with a freind that drives, then when we get to our destination just split up to get some one on one time with her idk... :confused: anymore advice on my original question? it would help alot.
 

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i have a permit but thats all i guess i grew up in the shiittiest era ever to get a car and a job if your young, so i would have to come up with a method that doesnt involve me driving, double date with a freind that drives, then when we get to our destination just split up to get some one on one time with her idk... :confused: anymore advice on my original question? it would help alot.

Have goals and try to achieve them. Thats in the long term. As for now, don't worry about what you have or havn't. If you can make women feel good they'll want more of it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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blank slate said:
i have a permit but thats all i guess i grew up in the shiittiest era ever to get a car and a job if your young, so i would have to come up with a method that doesnt involve me driving, double date with a freind that drives, then when we get to our destination just split up to get some one on one time with her idk... :confused: anymore advice on my original question? it would help alot.
There's really not much more advice to give. Seems like you want someone to give you a magic word that's gonna make this chick like you more.

You kissed her once. I've kissed lots of girls once and had it go absolutely nowhere beyond that. Especially in high school, man...chicks will make out with you just because there's nothing good on TV. Reality is, not every girl is gonna like you. Build yourself up into a confident, interesting person and if this chick doesnt like you, 100 others will. Whatever.
 

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its not that i want a magic word, just i dont wanna become just "that other dude" thats trying to get at her. i want her to see me as someone that would and could be more than a friend, just not sure what would be the right move that would help her realize that. what im trying to say is that i want her to be more comfortable around me than any other of those guys without having to talk to her alot and make it obvious what im trying to do, i want her to chase me rather than vice versa, some chicks already do this but im interested in this one at the moument and she wont go for it. HMMMM....
 

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I said... get your drivers license as a start. now make an appointment tomorrow. then, borrow a car and call her, take her out.
 

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Would there be any other options, is there anything else i can do to get her to be the one txting and callin me and having her come up to me at lunch and talkin instead of vice versa?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"dont TELL her how you feel, show it. dont bore her by waiting..."

Priceless advice.

If you want her to be all up on you then you have to do what works- create attraction. And you need to be hanging out with her do that.

So yea, ask her to hang out. Don't ask her on a date. Just ask her to come do something with you...

ANd then concentrate on building attraction. Nothing else. Just create attraction and when the time is right-get physical and kiss her.

There is nothing else you need to know.

Don't worry about being different then the other guys. I used to have the same complex... and while i was trying to be original and different- other guys were with the girl i WANTED.

dont make that mistake
 

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yes... try this:

Joe Stud said:
hang out with her on wkends? so go to a movie, or a video game arcade. laugh, kino her, tease her when you beat her. treat her like a bratty little sister at first. than later when getting a bite, sit at right angle at a table, and kino some more. invite her over to your house/room to watch a movie. make your move. dont TELL her how you feel, show it. dont bore her by waiting... "make the ho say no".
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