"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Need help converting an old relationship back to a Fling

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Hi Don Juans,

I have an issue here which needs all your expert advice. I made some mistakes and please don't beat me up for that. I was in an extremely close terms with a HB8 (her figure really rox!) for about one and a half months. She was all over me. (She being the aggressor and initiate calls and dates, while I play it very cool and and 'play hard to get in times') And then for some reason, The relationship gone a bit downhill (Her interest level drops) recently and she is 'not as warm as before'.

Unnoticably, I fall for her & convert back to my old Wimpish ways... The WORST mistake is, I told her that I like her. We had not made any declaration about liking one another. but we are kissing and light petting. (No sex). She sounds negative about me telling her that I like her, and noticably, she became cold, but i still play cool after that.

By the way, I have gotten over her now, not actively contacting one another anymore, only occasional internet msging. And my Greatest Frustration is. I haven't BED her yet!! And man, she is hot and from my experience with her, she gets into casual relationships easily, she has become a mistress of a married man before, but not now. Call me desperate if you like. Guys, any great suggestions to bed her even after she starts avoiding you? I am intending to turn this situation to a short term relationship/fling.

I have a plan. I am a relatively charming guy (Not to brag). And recently I have been working on to further enhance my physical image (Muscles, smart clothes, hairdo, image-changing). I intend to re-contact her a month later after things cool down. & re appearing with a totally fresh and even better image. (In fact her friends have very good impression of me.) Then ask her out and keep it light and funny without talking about the past and no long term intention. Thus using the DJ bible & Kinos to lure her to the ultimate action. The main point is to use physical attraction to lure her back. How you guys feel or any better suggestions?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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As much as you'd like to rub it off that you didn't fall for her it still sounds to me like you have oneitis. Either that or she's your only source of potential pvssy and you're desperate to hit it. I'm glad you realized your fvck-ups but normally when a womans interest level drops off so drastically and so fast in just a month and a half it could mean one of two things...

1) She got bored or found (maybe even had) someone better.
2) She really wasn't that interested in you in the first place and was nothing more than a prick tease. More likely an attention *****.

The best advice for you to follow is to continue to improve yourself and find better woman. Forget about this one. She'll sense it when you don't care for her anymore thus making you more of a challenge. I'm sure there are sexier/cuter woman out there. You just have to look. And just to let you know... If she see's you with equivalent or sexier women in your arms she would jump back on your dyck in no time. Once this happens then BAM! You be the pimp and show her how it's done. If that turns out to be the case give that wh0re the ride of her life.
 
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That's a great advice you gave, Buddy.

However as I mentioned in my previous post, I did tell her I liked her before, thus does it make it harder for a fling to happen? Coz within her mind, she may be freaked by the idea of me wanting to attach to her.

Don't mistaken me that because I posted these, it seems I do like her (yes in the past only). Now NO. I only want to test my skills, and I totally got over with any long term intents. (Only sexually interested 100%)

In Fact, I am going to use that method of 'using another HB' to spite her. We study in the same music school once every week same timing. I will ask a HB friend of mine to meet me outside my class and "unintentionally" let her see us. I will be dressed up smartly with that HB friend of mine. And we will see what happen. heh heh.

Oh yeah. Any more ideas, guys? To be very direct, I really wanna scr3w her with no strings attached.,. ^_^
 
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Ask her for one of her friend's phone number. If she asks why, just tell her you're totally ****ing hot for the girl. Watch jealousy set in. If she doesn't get jealous, then by all means follow through and try to bang her friend.
 
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That may not be a good idea. The main thing is that her friends are not so hot, need a really hot babe to go into this picture.

As my latest post of getting another HB to meet me outside my music class. Good idea?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If you want to tap this ass after a failed attempt on your part, then you've got to recruit her somehow into getting another piece of ass for you. If not her friend, maybe someone from where she works, goes to school with, ect.

Do what you want with other women.You want to meet another hottie in school, go for it. But with this one in particular, you have to do something decisive to know either way, and you really can't lose. If she decides to help you get ass. Great. If she gets bent over it, then you know you're more to her than just "a friend". You win either way. But if you want to move on, then just move on. Kill the thread.
 
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Adrian said:
As much as you'd like to rub it off that you didn't fall for her it still sounds to me like you have oneitis. Either that or she's your only source of potential pvssy and you're desperate to hit it. I'm glad you realized your fvck-ups but normally when a womans interest level drops off so drastically and so fast in just a month and a half it could mean one of two things...

1) She got bored or found (maybe even had) someone better.
2) She really wasn't that interested in you in the first place and was nothing more than a prick tease. More likely an attention *****.

The best advice for you to follow is to continue to improve yourself and find better woman. Forget about this one. She'll sense it when you don't care for her anymore thus making you more of a challenge. I'm sure there are sexier/cuter woman out there. You just have to look. And just to let you know... If she see's you with equivalent or sexier women in your arms she would jump back on your dyck in no time. Once this happens then BAM! You be the pimp and show her how it's done. If that turns out to be the case give that wh0re the ride of her life.
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Initially, I think its the physical attraction that makes her all over me, plus i used a lot of challenge on her, like playing cool etc.

She is the one initiating all the physical touchings. However, the main booboo is that I use minimal kino to her, thinking its challenge! (Stupid me!) & thought that by not touching her, it will make her wanting for more the next date. zzz

In the nutshell, her interest goes way downhill within 1-2weeks, reason still not really known but perhaps as what Adrain says. & we must take the factor into consideration that I expressed my feelings to her before (bad thing to do during a downhill of her interest).

I am not emotionally attached (that's for sure) to her anymore as i am beginning to get new numbers and know more girls. I'm currently turned on by her physical only and ultimate aim is just to Scr3w her. (Really really hot bod, turned on by all aspect of her.) Just one time will do. (like an explorer wanting to untap a certain part of the amazon~)

Okok maybe i'm a perv3rt, but come to think of it. A minority of the guys here may miss out chances to scr3w a girl and in the end without accomplishing the manly mission, the relationship goes downturn. So How do guys basically reach his objective(S**) when things turned down?
 
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