"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Hey, I need some help closing

Here's a quick breifing of my situation. I'm great at getting numbers and names, never shy but when i add their bbm or text them i usuaully end up staying there.

I find ive been having a streak of not being able to get dates, rather i stay as a chat buddy. Of course there have been a few ive gotten it in with, but if i maximized on the other girls (which is the majority) i'd be considered a sex king lol.

What can i do to fix this?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Are the girls you're getting numbers from better looking than you? As in for example you're a 5 and they're 6+? It might be that this is handicapping you...
 

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I think first step is to stop texting and start calling. You need to learn how to call a girl, it's crucial for you self-esteem. The reason that you don't get dates is because you don't expect to get them, and that's why you settle with texting the girls and hope for a good response that will not come.

In some cases it's ok to text a girl instead of calling. Maybe if you don't really know if you want a date or if you feel that she is really interested in you and you know she will respond. But calling is always your main option. You need to feel confident to call or it will not work, so force yourself into start calling.

Also, I don't know what you write in your texts, but if you want a date, be direct and specific. Don't do any "hello how are you, nice weather"-chit chat texts without any point or start chatting with them online hoping to get a shot at asking them out. That's when they already started to see you as a friend.
 

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jay_mo said:
I think first step is to stop texting and start calling. You need to learn how to call a girl, it's crucial for you self-esteem. The reason that you don't get dates is because you don't expect to get them, and that's why you settle with texting the girls and hope for a good response that will not come.

In some cases it's ok to text a girl instead of calling. Maybe if you don't really know if you want a date or if you feel that she is really interested in you and you know she will respond. But calling is always your main option. You need to feel confident to call or it will not work, so force yourself into start calling.

Also, I don't know what you write in your texts, but if you want a date, be direct and specific. Don't do any "hello how are you, nice weather"-chit chat texts without any point or start chatting with them online hoping to get a shot at asking them out. That's when they already started to see you as a friend.
I think i'm way better looking than them. I got a great physique and smile chicks always compliment.

I think that's what i'm lacking, i really, barely ever call...Some chicks i only have their pin.
So when you say call, do you mean converse or calling is for making plans with them
 

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You are looking for dates, so you call them to make plans, to book a date.

Making a phone call for a date always involve some lighter casual conversation, to lighten up the mood. But it should always be obvious that you have a purpose. Don't be afraid to show intentions.
Call her, chit chat a little, ask her out, and you're done. It takes a couple of minutes. Calls before the first date should never be any long conversations imo.

I'm sure there are tons of advice and guides on how to make phone call for a date here. My friend also gave me a good list, maybe I can write them down later.

It's good that you pile up connections online, but these are only to build a network with in the future. In any moment when you make contact with a girl with the intention to hook up with her, take her phone number, call her and go for the date immediately, without messing around. Don't add her to your network.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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