"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Drewgie

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What's up? I'm new to the DJ message boards, but I'm no stranger to the theories practiced (I've already read/studied David DeAngelo's book which is pretty much the same as the articles on this site). I was hoping I could get some questions answered about the girl I'm currently pursuing.

Here's the background:

We went to H.S together and had one class together. Now we talked/teased a little in this class but I NEVER crossed the friendship barrier, and frankly I didn't have an insatiable urge to pursue her in HS.

We end up going to the same school and I see her the second day in the cafeteria line. Long story short: she blossomed over the summer. Big time. So we make small talk "oh hi, how are you" etc. and I walk through line and sit down at an empty table in plain site assuming she'll sit down and want to catch up.

Well, she walks by me, and I mean less than five feet away, and sits at another table *directly in my line of view* with another guy. I was kinda shocked at first and thought "wow, she doesn't wanna catch up? It's been three months."

Then I thought about the possibility of her just trying to make me jealous and that was pretty much confirmed the next day when me and a pal were walking along and we bumped into her. She was EXTREMELY open and all smiles, acting as if she didn't completely snuff me the day before. I acted indifferent and aloof in a "hard to get" way, teasing her and kind of rushed the convo, swapped mobile #'s with her and moved on.

Well the next day she calls, once again very "happy" and asks if I want to eat lunch with her. I tell her no that I'm busy (hard to get, plus I needed my cat nap :cool: ) but I'll meet her later for dinner.

She calls ten minutes before we planned to meet to make sure I'm coming and I teased her about it and moved on. Now here is the part that confuses me:

I'm assuming at this point that she is interested and wants me to pursue her. So I go to dinner ready to get my game on and then the worst thing happens. . . she brings her ROOMMATE!!! Now this is very disarming to me because I always have worked on girls one on one. Nevertheless I made the best of it and teased/flirted with her and dismissed myself a little early. I was still intent on the pursuit so I planned on not calling her for a few days to build her anticipation of our next meeting.

Today she snuck up on me after I got out of class and gave me a playful punch on the arm and a "what's up" We talked as we walked toward our respective dorms and the flirting intensity increased. There was a little sexual innuendo and we each discussed why we though penises/vaginas were superior and I kept teasing. I think she even threw the "relationship" word out there while we were arguing that penises/vaginas made men/women superior.

Anyhow, here's my questions:

I know women send mixed messages, but why the hell is she sending so many? She snuffs me, flirts with me next time I see her, says "I really want to talk to you", she brings her roomie along when she gets the chance, then the next time I see her she's playful and flirtatious again. Should I worry that she's two-faced? or is she just trying to make me want her more? I believe the latter but a second opinion would help me out psychologically.

My plan is to find out once and for all. I plan on calling her over to my dorm real quick one evening, then just taking her straight to the pool hall for a "date" if you will, administering kino and teasing/flirting then going for the kiss later that night. Any refresher courses on kino and going for the first kiss would be HIGHLY appreciated from you guys.

Bottom line; this girl is soooooo hot. I must have her.

-Drewgie

P.S. Any advice on sex at college (other than 'it aint a party without a balloon)? I think the biggest problem is getting in my/her room while the roommates are out, although she's in a suite with an individual room so maybe I can get her hot enough for an invite up :D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Drewgie

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Bump.

I know it's a long and potentially boring post but I could really use some feedback guys!
 

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She may be an AW, but theres just something about her. It's like she's challenging me so I don't wanna back down. I'm gonna keep c&f going around her and mix some kino in. If the games keep up I'll next her.
 

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You're looking way too into this.

I don't see where you can draw any conclusions of attention *****.

She walks by you and sits with someone else? So what? That could mean anything. Could be as simple as not noticing you or the fact that you haven't seen each other in three months and the extent of what you did was flirt in one class.

She brings her roommate to dinner? Maybe she felt sorry for her roommate because she had no one else to eat with. Maybe she likes you and wants her roommate's opinion on whether you are are quality or not. Maybe blah blah ANYTHING.

I really don't see where she "snuffed" you at all. You want her to be all sexual and junk with you with her roommate sitting there? I don't flirt too much with girls with my friends right there either, but in privacy waattch out.

Get her alone. Kiss her while you're flirting. See what happens. All this analyzing things you can't know is pointless.
 

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Re: Re: Need advice

Originally posted by mrRuckus
You're looking way too into this.

I don't see where you can draw any conclusions of attention *****.

She walks by you and sits with someone else? So what? That could mean anything. Could be as simple as not noticing you or the fact that you haven't seen each other in three months and the extent of what you did was flirt in one class.

She brings her roommate to dinner? Maybe she felt sorry for her roommate because she had no one else to eat with. Maybe she likes you and wants her roommate's opinion on whether you are are quality or not. Maybe blah blah ANYTHING.

I really don't see where she "snuffed" you at all. You want her to be all sexual and junk with you with her roommate sitting there? I don't flirt too much with girls with my friends right there either, but in privacy waattch out.

Get her alone. Kiss her while you're flirting. See what happens. All this analyzing things you can't know is pointless.
What he said.... :up:

and what does BUMP mean??
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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