"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Need advice with this chick. Trying to get her phone #

lougv22

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Hi all,

Here is the situation. There is this chick I've been "working" on for some time. She initiated contact with me via email. We see each other 1-2 times a week and email regularly. I've been doing the ****y & Funny thing with her with good results and have tried to remain a challenge. The last two times she was the one that actually came over to see me (that's at work, we are in different departments and don't really have a reason to talk to each other).
She is young, just turned 20, and seems inexperienced with the whole dating thing.

She has given me some IOIs, like initiating contact with me and giving me that smile and that look in her eyes, you know what I mean, you just know it when you see it. So anyway, I want to get her phone number now. That's what I said to her today in an email:


"........Btw, is there a phone number I can reach you at if I wanted to call you 10 times a day and bother you?" (I was trying to be ****y & funny here)

And then she responded:

"........If you're going to call and bug me ten times a day then maybe I shouldn't give you my number."

So what should I say now in order to make her give me her number?

It sounds like she is offering some resistance but is willing to give it to me, I just need to not make a wrong move from here on. Any advice would be appreciated.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Jay Jay

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Lol

Love it!

When you use C&F you gotta be prepared for a girl to hit you back with it.

Don't worry I did exactly the same thing when I first read some DeAngelo.

I texted a girl "don't forget to call that really cool guy you met last night."

She called instantly, was really tantalised and was like, "who is this really cool guy you are talking about?" I couldn't back up with another C&F and her good mood evaporated...

Sorry, I got no help for you. Sometimes CF just ****s up on you. Have a laugh.

Personally I just tell a girl to give me her number. "Give me your number." It works.

JJ
 

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You prolly shouldn't of used it as a reversal lol, you shoulda said something like:

"You came all the way to my department to talk, soo when do you want me to call you?"

Ofcourse this works after some kinda finessing prior to asking. But I'm sure it's nothing you cant handle.
 

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Why do you need to be C&F when getting a phone number… I have the best approach being assertive…

An e-mail example after meeting a girl out and getting her e-mail…

Hey...

Haha... so much fallout from New Year.. I'll tell you the story later, lol...

Don't know if I'll make Circle tonight. I'm at the Hyatt earlier so it depends how it is.

Send me your cellphone number and I can give you a call later..........
Result? The number came along… we hooked up at Circle and had a wicked time, lol…
 

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lougv22 said:
Hi all,

Here is the situation. There is this chick I've been "working" on for some time. She initiated contact with me via email. We see each other 1-2 times a week and email regularly. I've been doing the ****y & Funny thing with her with good results and have tried to remain a challenge. The last two times she was the one that actually came over to see me (that's at work, we are in different departments and don't really have a reason to talk to each other).
She is young, just turned 20, and seems inexperienced with the whole dating thing.

She has given me some IOIs, like initiating contact with me and giving me that smile and that look in her eyes, you know what I mean, you just know it when you see it. So anyway, I want to get her phone number now. That's what I said to her today in an email:


"........Btw, is there a phone number I can reach you at if I wanted to call you 10 times a day and bother you?" (I was trying to be ****y & funny here)

And then she responded:

"........If you're going to call and bug me ten times a day then maybe I shouldn't give you my number."

So what should I say now in order to make her give me her number?

It sounds like she is offering some resistance but is willing to give it to me, I just need to not make a wrong move from here on. Any advice would be appreciated.

Play around with it, don't always use Canned material. Be sure you can adapt your C&Fness to your situations.

"Ahh playing hard to get are we? Nice"

Slip her your phone, and leave.

By the time you see her afterwards, the numbers there.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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