"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Well go. She countered. Get to know her better. More importantly give her a chance to get to know you better. Bust her chops at the gym a little. The gym is a safe environment for her. It allows her to appreciate you physically but you get to appreciate her physically too. Let her see how big & strong you are! So go, do your workout, enjoy it. If you see other people you know, say hello and act as you normally would. She sounds interested but careful. Don't overthink it. You are spending time together. Just text her & ask what time does she go to the gym on Thurs. When she responds, just say "Cool, see you then." And then see her Thurs.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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well anyways fellas she friend zoned me (via text) :) said that I lived too far and it was making it difficult to get close. She told me before we ever went out that she doesn't like long distance relationships because it becomes difficult to get close to the person, but she would be "open minded" with me because she couldn't deny the chemistry between us. I guess I thought I was above that and could somehow make it work. Im a ****ing idiot haha

Obviously there are no rules in this game but I don't really think she had the "right" to friend zone me. For one we only went on two dates and you were all over me, secondly you would blow up my phone every time I ignored you, I take the hint you like me and start asking you out and you friend zone me to satisfy your own ego?

Seems pretty pathetic. This is only the third time time Ive ever been friend zoned in the past two years ....tends to bruise my ego pretty hard when it happens.
 

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- Next day go on another date with her, she drives an hour to see me which impressed me.
- Something came up on the third date I give her the benefit of the doubt
- finally she asks me out. She invites me to meet her at the gym which I took as a good sign being the fact that she wanted to be seen with me in front of all the other guys trying to get at her so I saw her we chatted and I grabbed her ass in the parking lot. F
- I was pissed she didn't make more time for me since Im rarely in the area. I go ghost on her again and she texts me "Why do you ignore me?" She also said "I think it's funny how you think your so mysterious. I already know you like me a lot more than your willing to admit to yourself"

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to me that last sentece would be a big fat red flag she values herself way higher than she values you

id be tempted to reply with "there we are then" and leave it at that

test her hamster see where her priorites lay

il be straight up though theres a 90% chance you aint gonna see this chick again
 

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well anyways fellas she friend zoned me (via text) :) said that I lived too far and it was making it difficult to get close. She told me before we ever went out that she doesn't like long distance relationships because it becomes difficult to get close to the person, but she would be "open minded" with me because she couldn't deny the chemistry between us. I guess I thought I was above that and could somehow make it work. Im a ****ing idiot haha

Obviously there are no rules in this game but I don't really think she had the "right" to friend zone me. For one we only went on two dates and you were all over me, secondly you would blow up my phone every time I ignored you, I take the hint you like me and start asking you out and you friend zone me to satisfy your own ego?

Seems pretty pathetic. This is only the third time time Ive ever been friend zoned in the past two years ....tends to bruise my ego pretty hard when it happens.

sorry posted my response before i read that last messge
 

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to me that last sentece would be a big fat red flag she values herself way higher than she values you

id be tempted to reply with "there we are then" and leave it at that

test her hamster see where her priorites lay

il be straight up though theres a 90% chance you aint gonna see this chick again
I went ghost on her approximately a week ago after we got in an argument. She ended up texting me saying "ok Im not mad now" "will you please talk to me" and started blowing up my phone. It sounded like she was scared to lose me. So I gave her another chance asked her out and she blew me off.

I'm starting to think there might be something "off" with her...serial dater perhaps. I Say this because She was literally jumping out of her chair dying to go out with me on the first date BEFORE she ever laid eyes on me in person only from texting her a few weeks
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm starting to think there might be something "off" with her...serial dater perhaps. I Say this because She was literally jumping out of her chair dying to go out with me on the first date BEFORE she ever laid eyes on me in person only from texting her a few weeks
happend to me a couple weeks ago , matched with a chick on tinder swapped numbers with her and she started confessing her undying love for me after 3 days ( we hadnt even met)

interest seemed to be ridiculosuly high then all of a sudden she just went ghost on me ok whatever (still not really sure why tbh)

couple days later she contacted me again and was upset i hadnt bothered with her

at this point i called her out and told her i knew what she was doing , she played inncoent but i knew it was bollux and left it at that

there are stil guys on this forum that believe we are to blame for womens bizzare behaviour becuase we arent being enough "value"

this is rubbish women have become dellusional and phosiopathic because our society allows them to be

the stuff they do is literally random depending on the mood they are in and we are left scratching our heads thinking weve done something wrong

dont stress son , move onto one thats in the mood for d1ck
 

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well anyways fellas she friend zoned me (via text) :) said that I lived too far and it was making it difficult to get close. She told me before we ever went out that she doesn't like long distance relationships because it becomes difficult to get close to the person, but she would be "open minded" with me because she couldn't deny the chemistry between us. I guess I thought I was above that and could somehow make it work. Im a ****ing idiot haha

Obviously there are no rules in this game but I don't really think she had the "right" to friend zone me. For one we only went on two dates and you were all over me, secondly you would blow up my phone every time I ignored you, I take the hint you like me and start asking you out and you friend zone me to satisfy your own ego?

Seems pretty pathetic. This is only the third time time Ive ever been friend zoned in the past two years ....tends to bruise my ego pretty hard when it happens.
Man... the amount of BS she's allowed to get away with is crazy. In my opinion, you need a stronger inner game, just because she finds you attractive doesn't mean she will sleep with you. In fact, there's a lot of attractive guys around (since you guys see eachother at the gym no). So how will she choose from all those dudes ? You guessed it, by sh!t testing.

She has every right to friend zone you. Having a chick contacting you doesn't mean jack sh!t if you are not banging her.

The fact that she could disappear for 7 months is very telling. What exactly was she doing for those 7 months ? blowing other dudes ?

Comes back, have some arguments with you then blows up your phone. She needs a orbiter and she found the perfect one. Someone she knows like her enough so he can take her out, while nothing serious is happening. No other she's making sure to blow up your phone after you disappear.

At the end of it bro, it's about your cause. If she's not draining your balls and you are looking to date (fvck her) she's losing your time.
 

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