Need advice on how to get out of the friendzone?

[Bullszeye]

Hey there,this is my first time posting here.My situation is rather unique,at least for my age(17).The girl i'm interested in is a very relaxed girl whose male-to-female friend ratio is about 10-1(srs).She has so many guy friends that when she let me use her laptop for a few minutes when i was at her house she was getting messages from at least 20 different guys at the same time.

I've fallen so deep into the friendzone that when me and a few of my mates were at her house she walked around the room for a couple of minutes with only a bath towel on after a shower.Even when i grab her butt/boobs or even if i kissed her she'd still see it as me being friendly.The first time i kiss her i want it to be unforgettable for her,not just a kiss she got from one of her guy friends.I also tease her often but she still looks at me like a bro.School is starting soon and i'm in the same class as her.Inviting her to watch a movie alone with me at my house is also something she wouldn't mind doing.Keep in mind she currently does like some other guy,and i need to win her over.

Help a fellow bro out.If you need more information just tell me.Thanks.

 

[Vice]

The first time i kiss her i want it to be unforgettable for her,not just a kiss she got from one of her guy friends.

This is all I needed to hear to know what's going on.

Drop this sh*t. I've had my first kiss with plenty of girls in some weird places, and none of them cooed about how "unforgettable" it was. Girls kiss guys all the time. It's a way of getting attention.

My advice is you learn how to be successful with OTHER girls. Make sure she sees you with other girls (in a romantic context) and practice on the others. Then when you build a skill set with the other girls, MAYBE you will have an opportunity with this one.

The irony is that a few years from now you'll be good with girls and this girl probably won't be attractive to you any longer.

STOP hanging out with her. You're getting too familiar to her and it's only going to dig the hole deeper. Again, start spending time with other girls and work on transforming yourself. What will happen is the same thing that happens when a chubby girl got fit and tan over the summer and now all of a sudden she's the hottest girl in class. Except in this case, as a guy, you became more popular and attractive (in more ways than just looks) and she'll wonder why you stopped hanging out with her.

 

[Bullszeye]

Actually that sounds like a pretty good idea,as she did say to me a few times that she likes guys that are really good with girls.The guy she currently likes is my age and the guy frequently has sex with girls and doesn't give a **** about them.Although,if i started dating other girls she would only be happy for me.But screw it,i'll just give up on her and start dating other girls,and i'll give it a shot again in a few months.Thanks for the advice.

 

[Chamber36]

Ya the quickest way out of the friendzone is if you were to fvck one of her girlfriends I believe.

 

[Bullszeye]

Ya the quickest way out of the friendzone is if you were to fvck one of her girlfriends I believe.

I can easily do that with her best female friend.However,her best friend is 4/10.But if i did so i'd ruin my chances with her as she would not date the same guy one of her female friends dated.I know this because one of my guy friends learned this the hard way(Yeah he also liked the same girl)

 

[Chamber36]

In my experience I find that the girls tend to fvck each others ex-bf's all the time. Probably because of the preselection from within their own social circle, mixed with the taboo of fvcking a guy who's off limits due to their friendship. Might be a long term project though. But since she's a 4/10 I doubt the preselection would really mean much.

 

[Vice]

In my experience I find that the girls tend to fvck each others ex-bf's all the time. Probably because of the preselection from within their own social circle, mixed with the taboo of fvcking a guy who's off limits due to their friendship. Might be a long term project though. But since she's a 4/10 I doubt the preselection would really mean much.

Try leading on the ugg/fattie but not going far with her.

Another thing you might try is that since you're so far in the friend zone, use this girl you like to socially proof you when you approach other girls. That way she can get her little need for attention from boys, and you get the preselection and association to a hot girl. Start going places with her socially. Talk about other girls you like around her and ask her for advice.

What kinds of venues can you go to that aren't bars/clubs? When do you turn 18? Anyway there are TONS of places you can go even before you turn 18. If you don't mind I can look up your IP and give you a total dossier of places available to you that you might have not considered before. I can either post them publicly or PM them to you if you don't want your username's general geographic location to be out in the open.

 

[Bullszeye]

Even if you looked up my IP you wouldn't be able to find many,if any places because my country is probably not even on the map.I can go anywhere now,dont need to be 18.And when i turn 18 ill probs be living in america,at least for that one year.It would be best if you told me about places you have in mind and i'll tell you if there are similar ones here.And btw,the reason i actually think i can get out of the friendzone with her is because the guy she currently likes was in the very same situation but actually managed to get out,although it's not that he has more game than me it's just that he literally tries to seduce every girl he knows..