"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Need advice on AW that I am fvcking

Handsfull

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Me and this girl were hot and heavy for the first 2 weeks after we met. She's hot, came off as totally legit, never flaked, fvcked my brains out, and I almost thought relationship type material. Same values, morals, etc... I knew it was too good to be true however. It always is.

During Memeorial Day weekend we go on seperate vacations. Neither one of us text or call during this time. Whatever.

Get back into town and she IS texting me, but it's much less energetic. Also texts that require no response, etc. Almost as if to say, "here i am, remember me?" But not, 'let hang out.' I can almost sense the apathy/gameness. We hang out a few times and it's weird/lame. Stayed at her house once since I got back, tried to fvck, but she was not having it. WTF? I chalk it up to things moving too quik, and sh1t flaming out. Happens all the time. Whatever, shes still a cool chick. :rock:

She then flakes out a time or 2 on hang outs/ dates with no explanation. I eject. I did not even contact her to ask what was up.

Just get a text from her 4 days later, not apolpgizing for flakes, but to ask me a question in an area I have expertise. She can easily look the sh1t up on the internet.

I like the pvssy and want to keep her as a plate, but have no time right now for games or immature BS. She is young. It's part of the game with them.

My question is this:
How do I keep spinning the plate, and tapping the @ss, without being drug into the drama? Or should I even respond to the text? Can I salvage a hot fvck buddy here?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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From what you wrote it sounds like there hasn't been any sex in a while and I don't actually sense any drama -- more like disinterest. Do not make the mistake of calling her out -- just go ghost and spin plates. Whatever happens with her in the future let happen or not happen.
 

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DonJuanabe said:
From what you wrote it sounds like there hasn't been any sex in a while and I don't actually sense any drama -- more like disinterest. Do not make the mistake of calling her out -- just go ghost and spin plates. Whatever happens with her in the future let happen or not happen.
You are right. No drama now, but it's like the hair on the back of my neck is standing up. I guess that's prob my answer. Haha.
 

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Mike32ct will spin the magic SS wheel for the answer...

The pointer is stopping on..... number.....five.

5. She hooked up with some tall guy on vacation. Lose a turn.


Go ghost for a while and see what happens. Right now she is sending you friendzone signals.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Mike32ct will spin the magic SS wheel for the answer...

The pointer is stopping on..... number.....five.

5. She hooked up on vacation. Lose a turn.

Sorry man.

^Rep. Haha. Knew that was coming! I love this site. Seriously spit my whiskey out on my laptop.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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DonJuanabe

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I recently went through this though didn't even get to the sex. When you get that feeling that something is wrong it means something is wrong. You cannot force a positive change with the girl -- you can't argue with her, you can't explain to her, you can't psychoanalyze her. Any of those will generate resentment and, additionally, she will know you care more than she does, which makes you look weak. It sucks but you have to do/say NOTHING. As I am sure many on this forum will agree there is probably another guy involved -- could be an ex, could be someone she just met, but either way she values you less than this guy. Go ghost and let him screw things up for himself and she'll be back. Maybe.
 

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Like Mike said. She had some d!ck on Memorial Day weekend. So your old news now.

Go ghost like everyone is saying. She will call if she wants you to smash again. Don't fret it. Move on and continue to spin plates playa.
 

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Handsfull said:
^Rep. Haha. Knew that was coming! I love this site. Seriously spit my whiskey out on my laptop.
Thanks. I like to keep things fun sometimes. But in all seriousness, I think that is what happened. A vacation hookup can easily disturb the ADD hamster brain and mess up her interest in you.

If she didn't hookup, she'd be texting you to come over as soon as she was home and her hangover went away. In chick logic, F-ing you now would be like "cheating" on Mr. Surfer Boy Vacation Hookup and tarnishing the memory. We'll see what happens when she's over it. Go ghost for now, but don't expect anything.

The Magic SS Wheel never lies :)
 

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This makes a playa think. I met a girl down here in the A town last weekend. She was on a mini vacation with her girls. We had vibed so well and she had a boyfriend. Even though she told me she had a boyfriend I was still choosing. So you know I had to spit my izm in her ear. I totally smooth talked her and convinced her to spend a weekend with me very soon. If your the boyfriend how do you prevent this from happening?

You can't prevent this from happening but you must always have a certain level of mystery with the female your dealing with. She cannot fully get you! You must always have other things going for you. She is a compliment, not a supplement.

So for you Handsfull. Get this princess out of your head. She is noones princess. Continue improving your life and show her that you have other priorities in your life and you could care less if your in her life her not. Let her come to you. If she doesn't come to you then forget about her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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