"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Need Advice - Dates amounting to nothing???

OnTheHouse

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"you're a moron for stopping it. she thinks you dont like her if you dont have sex with her. simple as that"


If this is true then why does she continue to fool around with me knowing I don't want it to lead to sex. We pretty much did everything but sex, I mean full on mine against hers (just no intercourse) till we both came....her multiple times.

She is still talking to me and all that and I am pretty sure I will get to go on another date fairly soon with her. This time I will close the deal! I appreciate all the constructive criticism.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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PrettyBoyAJ

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Hold up.... you came without actually being inside her.

This has got to be a joke....
 

OnTheHouse

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No, it's definitely not a joke, and I'm not going into any more detail than that...
 

cordoncordon

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OnTheHouse said:
We have also fooled around a few times and it could of led to sex each time but I stopped that from happening because I really like her.
I read that line and actually laughed out loud....hard. I mean, this is the screwed up mentality you have where you actually think because you like her, you won't have sex with her. Me? I don't have sex with people that I don't like. You? Don't have sex with people you DO like. That is just so messed up. Its like saying I am not going to have this piece of cake because I love it. But I will eat this piece of cardboard because I hate it.

Next time you are making out with her, escalate to the sex or you can kiss this one good bye.
 

SgtSplacker

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There's alot of advice here whether you take it or not is up to you. But one thing for sure is that you have to be the man in this relationship. She cannot pace your relationship with these rules and ideals she has. Be a gentleman sure, but suggest what you like. Tell her your horny! show her your wood dude, ask her to touch it! Tactfully of course...

She might say her ex was an ahole, but what broke the relationship is that he let it get away from him. He crossed the line. Be the ahole but dont cross the line!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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DonJuanabe said:
Yeah, sex would ruin things because it would feel good and that awesome endorphin rush is euphoric and...

I can't tell who is playing you the most -- the girl, or you.
Judge nismo reviewed your case and has found you guilty of unuthorized use of a pedestal, failure to be sexual, failure to man up, and failure to lead. It all comes with a fine of 2 blue balls and a trip to North Strainedmind, Delaware.

You have not gotten this girl. You need to sleep with her. If not, don't be surprised when you find that your princess is in another castle. Or if Judge nismo himself swoops in and gets her in chambers. :p

Getting sexual from the get go is the best thing that is for you. You're f**king yourself up. Stop that sh*t. Now. You want this simplified? Okay. :)

Alpha male: careless.
Beta male: careful.

Which are you? Beta in this case. :nervous:

Holy sh*t! That's right! Women always want the alpha male. And you aren't him. :(

So fix it. Or whine about it. That's up to you. That's my ruling.

Case closed.
 

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Well I appreciate the advice from the people who seem to have half a brain on here and can muster up some sort of intelligent response.

Some of you seem like you spend way too much time on these forums that I question how much you really get out. Go ahead and attack me as you may, I'm done here...I know what I need to do now.

Later
 

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lol! Most of that post was true, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. The more a girl likes you, the more mistakes you can get away with, but there's always a limit. You can push things faster without being disrespectful to her and it is most likely in your best interest. Showing a girl who likes you that you want her is always a good thing (unless it edges into desperation).

As for a sure-fire relationship, you need to bang her over and over until her rational mind has melted into a soup of pair-bonding hormones (yours will too, unfortunately). But you're only 26, not listening to anybody and getting into an obsessive whirlwind relationship until it blows up in your face is part of growing up. Enjoy it while it lasts and see you in 2-3 years :D
 

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cordoncordon said:
I read that line and actually laughed out loud....hard. I mean, this is the screwed up mentality you have where you actually think because you like her, you won't have sex with her. Me? I don't have sex with people that I don't like. You? Don't have sex with people you DO like. That is just so messed up. Its like saying I am not going to have this piece of cake because I love it. But I will eat this piece of cardboard because I hate it.

Next time you are making out with her, escalate to the sex or you can kiss this one good bye.
It makes sense, if you ever had the nice guy mentality. This guy has it down packed. I did the same thing in the past, so I suspect he's going to crash and burn. Then he'll join the ranks on here. :rockon:
 
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