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Need advice and Opinions on HB8 Single mom I am meeting for a drink this week - Long

jamesblond

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What's up everyone! I have lurked on this site on and off for the past couple years and have found some really good, and not so good methods on getting the p*ssy.

I Joined a gym 6 months ago nd was given the tour by this woman who was the night/weekend manager there. Right off the bat, I felt great chemistry with her . As we wrapped up the paperwork, we made some fluff talk and I noticed she was nervous, playing with her hair, and smiling while looking deep into my eyes. She told me twice that I looked real familiar to her. It turns out that she works her day job at an office building 2 minutes from my house.

After that I hadnt gone to the gym until about a week after joining. She gave me a call to check up on me and see where I had been, and when I was going to start. We had a nice little convo again on the phone - once again great chemistry. And I told her maybe we can get together for a workout some time, to which she said that sounds great.

The thing is, I like to work out in the mornings and with my schedule wound up not ever going in the evenings - wound up not seeing her or talking to her again. Plus, I was seeing somebody else at the time and got a severe case of "one-itis" which wound up backfiring on me after 2 months - even though I tapped that ass and have no regrets.

OK fast forward to 2 weeks ago - I get a message from the HB8 telling me that she is leaving her job at the the gym that coming weekend and that she still has my original contract if I would like to come in and pick it up. I looked at this as an opportunity to finish what I didnt do the first time around. I went on the last day she was there, and when I walked through the door she was right there in the lobby and had a huge smile on her face when she saw me. I wasted no time in getting kino with her right away by grabbing her hand and kissing her on the cheek while still holding her hand. She was really happy to see me and we went to her office and had a nice talk and she showed me pictures of her 14 yo daughter who is OMG beautiful - which I told her and commented - she looks just like her mom, which HB8 ate up:D

So I am asking her about how she feels about leaving the job and she says kind of sad because of the nice people she has met while there, but she needs a break and such. This is where I wasted no more time and told her that we should get together for a drink one evening after work - There is a Houlihans right in her Building at work. She said yeah, that sounds good and whipped out her pen and wrote down her work# and told me to give her a call whenever. We talked some more and then I left, giving her a nice hug and kiss on the cheek. I walked out of there feeling fantastic!

So this past Friday I call her and she sounds really happy to hear from me, asking what I have been up to and some more fluff talk. I decided to change gears a bit and asked her if she had some time on Saturday morning, that I thought we could get together for coffee. She couldnt because she and her daughter were going to a communion and party afterwards, but she right away asked me what about one night this week to meet for drinks at Houlihans- I thought this was good because she didnt just say "Oh sorry, I cant "and leave me to offer the alternative, she did which I think shows good IL. I played it cool and told her that sounds good but I will have to check my schedule as to when I could and that I will give her a call the day before to set it up. She said - Great, definitely call me and we'll meet then. I told her to have a great weekend and she told me the same. A very good convo because I made it short and to the point.

Now my questions are - What do you think this Womans IL is to this point from what I have told you? I think it is good

And how long/short should the drink date be?

Thanks in advance for your answers/opinions :)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Julian

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Dude, you already kissed her twice (albeit on the cheek) but still, her IL is very high. This weekend is prime. if it doesnt happen this weekend her IL will drop for sure.

Dont try an set a time limit, just go and have a good time. I mean, you said yourself that the chemistry was very good at this point.

I bet you could pull a fuk close, seriously.

Remember, dont drink too much, just enough to feel a little bit buzzed. Otherwise, have a good convo, have a good laugh, and have a good fucc!

Good work bro, i wish i could get a milf lol.
 

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have a drink or 2 with her, then suggest going back to your place to watch a movie. She might not be comfortable bringing strange guys to her place with her daughter and all, so suggest your place not hers.
 

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Julian - I know, maybe I shouldnt have kissed her at all and just kinoed her, but I definitely have accomplished getting her comfortable with me and establishing touch, so it's all good. I am meeting her this week one night and couldnt pull a f close because I have a daughter at home, as well as she does. That would have to be on a weekend, maybe first real date.


Crank, yes, but for the reason I just mentioned above, it would have to be on the weekend when my daughter is with her mom.
 

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Update

OK, here is an update on my dealings with HB8 Mom. I met her for lunch last Thursday and we had a good time with very good conversation, no lulls during the whole hour we spent. I mixed in some innuendo as it was funny that the special Lunch section in the menu was titled "Nooner" - LOL. I asked her if she knew what that meant and she said yes with a big smile on her face, but looked nervous - so I squashed any further talk about that topic - Maybe I should have pushed the envelope though? I dont know. Anyway, I had her talking alot about herself and she asked me some good questions about what my interests were and what not, where I live, etc. Alot of good eye contact, she shared some of her dish with me(although not the one I really want)

At the end we are wrapping up, and she tells me thanks for coming and meeting her and that it was a really good date for her, I told her I enjoyed it as well. Now the check comes and I grab the book and after I open it she asks me what her half comes out to? - She gets high marks for this as she told me during lunch what an independent woman she is and then she displayed it to me right then and there. Well, I though about it for a couple seconds and told her - "Nah, I got this, but you can get the tip". I thought I played it cool as I showed I am not cheap, but at the same time let her make a contribution to the event. The tab was only 25 bucks anyway.
So then I tell her to give me her # and playfully tell her it is not fair that she has mine and I only have her work # She got her pen out and gave me her Cell as she said it would be hard to get her at her home #. I dont know what that meant, but I am guessing it is because she has a 14 year old daughter at home, maybe tying up the phone and/or internet dial up if she doesnt have cable yet.

So we leave and she again tells me thanks, and I tell her the pleasure was mine. We said good bye and I grabbed her by the hip and kissed her cheek again. I think I could have gotten a kiss close but played it too cool not wanting to be obvious and let her think she has me - I think to save it for the real date where my **** will really fly. She walked away from me smiling as she headed back to work and that was that.

I waited until Sunday afternoon to call her and wound up getting her voicemail. I left this - " Hi HB8, it's James Blond. Sorry I wasnt able to reach you, just thought I'd call to see how your weekend has been. Give me a call, my # is -----, take care, Bye."

Well, I havent heard back yet and am wondering what to do as it is now Tuesday. I was thinking to give her a call tomorrow and that will be it if I dont reach her or hear back. Do you guys think I should do anything different? I appreciate the feedback.

Thanks much
:)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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