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Neckties and long sleeve shirts

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Because of my business, I have to wear ties with ls shirts, because I'm in the south, I can avoid coats and jackets. The lady I see the most prefers men in polos and jeans, which how I casually dress. Do any of you have fashion tips using "business dress" when meeting women?
 

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One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Neat, clean, pressed and proper fit. Nowadays you can forgo the tie a portion of the time.
 

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I agree about fit ,Francisco. Some of the shirts pulled open just above the belt exposing my undershirt, and a female friend pointed it out to me. I lost a little weight (45lbs) and increased shirt size by a 1/2 size.

I'll leave off ties on short sleeves, but still picking shirt -tie color combinations, which really feels weird.

I have noticed different type of woman noticing me more, mostly secretarial types, but not the naturalist and animal lover types.
 

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I agree about fit ,Francisco. Some of the shirts pulled open just above the belt exposing my undershirt, and a female friend pointed it out to me. I lost a little weight (45lbs) and increased shirt size by a 1/2 size.

I'll leave off ties on short sleeves, but still picking shirt -tie color combinations, which really feels weird.

I have noticed different type of woman noticing me more, mostly secretarial types, but not the naturalist and animal lover types.
More times than not if you get fit right, everything else falls into place (congratulations on the weight loss btw). If you're continuing to lose weight you may want to hold off expanding your wardrobe but sooner or later revamp some of the staple pieces of your wardrobe (white, blue and pinstripe dress shirts).

You can switch up the look with a variety of ties possibly very lightweight vests (again fit matters). Switch up between shirt/tie, shirt/no-tie, shirt/vest and shirt/vest/tie. Do that with each shirt and you have 12 different combinations not counting pant combinations (khaki, jeans, grey pinstripe and black). All in all you have a ton of combinations.

I know that you're in the south but a long sleeve shirt looks more professional than short sleeve. This doesn't mean that you couldn't roll up the cuffs a couple of times to cool down or to switch between business to business casual to casual looks. This can easily be done by loosening or removing your tie, buttoning or unbuttoning your vest or a combination of both.
 

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The lady I see the most prefers men in polos and jeans

Did you let her get away with telling you what to wear? That is more important than any clothing decision - not letting a woman tell you what to do.
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Thanks Francisco for encouragement about weight loss, I stiill have aways to go (6ft, 235),. Right now I'm using solid white and color shirts, but ties are multi color to use with more combos.


Bilbe Belt, I've been taking women with me when I clothes shop, but that is to get the clothes they want to see me in, not really business clothes. the polo and jeans have only been seeing duty on Saturdays and mostly only with that particluar lady.

My best combination right appears to be gray sacks, maroon shirt with a morron and gray tie.
 

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the polo and jeans have only been seeing duty on Saturdays and mostly only with that particular lady.

That's exactly what I'm saying to not do. Getting advice from female friends is one thing, but letting a woman you're dating dictate the clothes you wear is wrong. Maybe if you are getting mass quantities of sex out of her, it is no big deal, but I bet you're not. All women, even the bossy ones, maybe especially them, respect a man who does not let a woman tell him what to do. It starts with the clothes, then soon she is making to-do lists for you on your day off.
 
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