"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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NC for you, not her

Nn877

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I wouldn't say I've taken the red pill yet but I'm seeing the light from discovering sosuave, women are not as complicated as we think they are. I've had two LTR and my most recent one really was an eye opener for myself. Same pattern, first few months both my exs were all over me, sex and compassion were abundant. Always missing me whenever we weren't together etc. but once I fell in "love" low interest signs started showing up left and right and I became so frustrated began chasing which as we all know fails every time.

This constant struggle for power and interest/attraction levels makes me not want to even get into a LTR so a long time.

I recently got into contact with my ex (dated for 10 months, broke up middle of Oct.)and she is seeking closure/validation I'm sure of it. Two weeks of exchanging texts and she seemed sincere but I was still hesistent I would keep responses short and sometimes I just wouldn't reply. But she kept at it and even drunk dialed me last sat 3am in morning. Three missed calls! now doesn't really initiate a convo or ask to set up a meet. I got weak and asked her out for drinks, she had work but didn't counter offer. Some push/pull bs. Such a headache dealing with this. I'm thinking maybe she started talking to a new guy either wasn't working out or he broke it off and she seeked me to feed her insecurities. Or just wants to keep available incase her new prospect doesn't work out.

My understanding is if you miss someone and express it, that means you want to see them. Especially an ex, "trust actions, not words" so anyone out there experiencing this too be wary or just stay in NC. I miss you but I don't have time to see you doesn't correlate to a sincere persons agenda.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Always stay the course once you decide No Contact, no matter what. You don't need to give her closure or validation or anything. The relationship is over, it's done, it's charred to a crisp, so stick a fork in it, delete all info from your phone/pc and move on without looking back. Save yourself some pain, man.
 

mikey2012

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Nn877 said:
I wouldn't say I've taken the red pill yet but I'm seeing the light from discovering sosuave, women are not as complicated as we think they are. I've had two LTR and my most recent one really was an eye opener for myself. Same pattern, first few months both my exs were all over me, sex and compassion were abundant. Always missing me whenever we weren't together etc. but once I fell in "love" low interest signs started showing up left and right and I became so frustrated began chasing which as we all know fails every time.

This constant struggle for power and interest/attraction levels makes me not want to even get into a LTR so a long time.

I recently got into contact with my ex (dated for 10 months, broke up middle of Oct.)and she is seeking closure/validation I'm sure of it. Two weeks of exchanging texts and she seemed sincere but I was still hesistent I would keep responses short and sometimes I just wouldn't reply. But she kept at it and even drunk dialed me last sat 3am in morning. Three missed calls! now doesn't really initiate a convo or ask to set up a meet. I got weak and asked her out for drinks, she had work but didn't counter offer. Some push/pull bs. Such a headache dealing with this. I'm thinking maybe she started talking to a new guy either wasn't working out or he broke it off and she seeked me to feed her insecurities. Or just wants to keep available incase her new prospect doesn't work out.

My understanding is if you miss someone and express it, that means you want to see them. Especially an ex, "trust actions, not words" so anyone out there experiencing this too be wary or just stay in NC. I miss you but I don't have time to see you doesn't correlate to a sincere persons agenda.

you got in contact with her???? u serious?? she may miss you but you are being too beta by overthinking..she can smell it a mile away.

NC should be used for 3-6 months not 2 weeks...

Man you are weak and they can sense that....

Like Vlad said..cut the cord and move on...you may have had a 1% chance before you asked her about but now that down to zero coz you were too eager..

Read Lotus' post on the dumped thread.
 

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Nc for almost 2 months actually, she kept calling and texting. I wasn't spinning plates, I replied to a text she sent me. I know I'm weak, **** sucks. I want to get over her and move on. I'm the one who dumped her. I actually don't really want her back, I miss our sex. I wouldn't mind a fwb. But I know that prob would be a mistake and not worth it.
 
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