Nature of modern relationships are a selfish one?

[ThisNThat]

In fact, they need me ten times more than I need them. Especially on an individual level.

If it makes you feel better to think that, good luck with that. lol

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Women have a far bigger hole in their soul needing to be filled than men do. That's my observation.

Concur.

Women are hard wired to find stable partners to reproduce. This comes across as having an emotional need for a "soul mate." Men are hard wired to find women to bust a nut. The emotional attachment only shows up in men once the baby comes, or if the nut busting was exceptional in some way (e.g. a rare occurrence). At least that's how Mother Nature intended it.

However, our monkey brains are easily overwritten by social proof, etc.

 

[speed dawg]

I saw on another message board, POF, that was really impactive. It was a subject of women wondering "Where are all the decent guys?"

Here's an excerpt, but it appears to be a reality of the situation we,as men, must accept and go along with it?

There's an emphasis on the division of labor and now it no longer really exists. Women had their roles, men had theirs and now...they only reason people will want teach other, these days, is the sex and companionship which is often times expendable once you grow weary or tired of the person in a few years.

The problem is that the overwhelming majority of people on dating sites are the "bad ones". The so-called "decent ones" are grossly out of step with reality and can't come to grips with how the world has changed. The bare fact of the matter is that there is no longer any natural basis for a relationship. A long term relationship is an impediment to the well being of average men and women. Only the continuous drum beat of the tradcons and the profit driven deception of Madison Avenue keeps the ridiculous notion of relationships alive.

In the old days, relationships developed as a cooperative division of labor based upon common goals. In the 21st century, there is no need for a division of labor; there are no common goals. This is best demonstrated by the coffee shop feminist mantra, "I don't need a man but I want a man". They don't need a man. That is absolutely true. They want a man. That is true too but it's not about their lives being better with one. They want a man only because they have been told that they want one.

Women routinely reject men that their great grandmothers would have grabbed in an instant. Great grand mother needed a man that could deliver the goods. Women, today, get the goods by other means. They don't need men. The incentive must go above and beyond "normal" to make it worth attaching themselves to an abuser. It usually doesn't.

As to men, they used to need a woman that could keep the home fires burning. Nowadays, a vacuum cleaner does a better job in 10 minutes than a woman beating the rugs for three hours. What a woman could cook in 6 hours can come from a microwave in 6 minutes. Every man that has been in the military knows how to clean, make a bed and fold clothes.

Then there is the children canard. In the days of family farms and family businesses, children were an asset. Because of the welfare state, children are still an asset to women but getting less and less so every day. To men though, especially corporate drones and manual laborers, children are a severe liability.

The average man cannot improve the life of the average single mother in any meaningful way. She passes on Joe Average. As soon as a man has secured some pvssy, a woman has nothing more to offer him. He disappears as soon as another source of easy poon makes itself available. Seeking a relationship requires the same level of gullibility as wiring money to a billionaire stranded in Nigeria. A sucker is born every minute so the relationship hustle will last a while more.

It is kind of sad though, but considering men know how to cook their own food, make their own beds, do their own dishes. The division of Labor is absent.

And i Had to nod my head vigorously at how the great grandmothers of the day would snap some of the average Joe's right up in an instant as compared to the women of today.

It often makes me wonder why people even bother marrying in the 21st century.

Do you there was something to our forefather's marriages that reinforced a love from a woman back then? Was there some kind of bond, romantic even, that stimulated the nature of marriages/relationships just in the pre-industrial or even the pre-to-post War War II era?

You didn't have to worry about flaking hardly back then that's for sure. If a woman said yes to a date, she committed herself to it 100%.

IMO, if you have to rationalize something by saying that it is "modern" or "that's how it's done today", "evolving", or any variant thereof, you are making excuses. Things do constantly change, but the basics stay the same. Game is one of the basics.

 

[ubercat]

I can't figure out all the OLD profiles that say they love to travel. Is it DHV BS? I mean my g/f gets funded for some long weekend trips. And she is paying for the next one. But that's a g/f and these chicks always say overseas travel. Where does the money come from?

 

[Billtx49]

I can't figure out all the OLD profiles that say they love to travel. Is it DHV BS? I mean my g/f gets funded for some long weekend trips. And she is paying for the next one. But that's a g/f and these chicks always say overseas travel. Where does the money come from?

Rich betas.

 

[Roober]

I can't figure out all the OLD profiles that say they love to travel. Is it DHV BS? I mean my g/f gets funded for some long weekend trips. And she is paying for the next one. But that's a g/f and these chicks always say overseas travel. Where does the money come from?

A lot of the women I have gone on dates with recently seem to make a decent amount of cash, I would think 70k+. If you have roommates and/or are good with your money, you will have expendable income for travel.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

A lot of the women I have gone on dates with recently seem to make a decent amount of cash, I would think 70k+. If you have roommates and/or are good with your money, you will have expendable income for travel.

Thing about it is "girls" love to use other peoples money. They might save their own or use it for something else.

 

[Serenity]

4 months? There's no job that I know that exists that lets you save over like 3 or 4 weeks. Then it caps out and you're stuck at that mark.

Some have a "Use it or lose it" system if you saved up too much time.

It is approximately the same over here. He of course used whatever vacation time he had, but that was not enough of course. He asked to take more time off and he got it. Not sure what to call it in English, some form of leave of absence. He didn't get any money for the time he was on this trip of course.

When he came back from his trip he came back to work.

 

[ThisNThat]

It is approximately the same over here. He of course used whatever vacation time he had, but that was not enough of course. He asked to take more time off and he got it. Not sure what to call it in English, some form of leave of absence. He didn't get any money for the time he was on this trip of course.

When he came back from his trip he came back to work.

Well, we had a guy here do the same thing. Had to be in Texas to help his wife's older parents out around the house. Of course, he didn't get paid when he took 3 months off, but was allowed to come back once he was done over there. It happens rarely around here though, of course the company was family owned and run by family.

 

[ThisNThat]

IMO, if you have to rationalize something by saying that it is "modern" or "that's how it's done today", "evolving", or any variant thereof, you are making excuses. Things do constantly change, but the basics stay the same. Game is one of the basics.

Making excuses? Whatever gave you that idea? One has nothing to do with the other. Anyway, back on topic.

 

[speed dawg]

Making excuses? Whatever gave you that idea?

Your post gave me that idea.

Anyway, back on topic.

Yes, it's painfully obvious you will continue arguing until you get the advice you want to hear. More power to you, pal.

 

[Serenity]

Well, we had a guy here do the same thing. Had to be in Texas to help his wife's older parents out around the house. Of course, he didn't get paid when he took 3 months off, but was allowed to come back once he was done over there. It happens rarely around here though, of course the company was family owned and run by family.

It is certainly not common in Norway. I don't think it's because the possibility isn't there, I think it's because very few want to sacrifice 2-3 months worth of money just for a trip. He's the only guy I know who has done this.