"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Mystic: "Interest - Effort = Attraction"

Dante420

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I attended a workshop of Mystic's in Boston today, it was really great for the price. He shared some great stuff, I know the DJ Bible is all that is advocated around here for the most part but this guy seems to make the extra effort to avoid rehashing common material. He said if something's successful it's worth teaching but he makes sure he adds his own "flavor" to it. Maybe he was just a gifted speaker but he held my attention and provoked my interest. It was amazing because I was so interested I chose to listen rather then take notes most of the time.

One of the things he mentioned sounded really on point. He said "think about any famous landmark, they don't need a promotion to attract tourists. When was the last time you saw a commercial to draw people to visit the Statue of Liberty?"

He continued on about how attraction works, and said "The interest you obtain minus the effort your putting in equals the level of attraction you got going on. Interest minus effort equals attraction"

He's going to be back in Cambridge in a few weeks and he said he plans to reveal some sneak peaks from his new program he developed, he says it's totally new with an emphasis on sealing the deal and PCA (post close amplification). so I guess we can look forward to that.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Dante420 said:
He continued on about how attraction works, and said "The interest you obtain minus the effort your putting in equals the level of attraction you got going on. Interest minus effort equals attraction"
That's retarded. So just don't try at all? It works if you have really high confidence and are good looking and a smooth talker naturally. You NEED to try. Especially if you're at the point where you're paying for workshops. You NEED to develop an opener and some "filler" talk. You NEED to peacock. You HAVE to try.

I understand that you don't want to appear "try-hard" as Mystery would say, but c'mon man. That's like saying you're going to get rich without trying.


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BTW, did you do any field work at the workshop? If so, how did it go? Just curious.
 

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TheSplat said:
That's retarded. So just don't try at all? It works if you have really high confidence and are good looking and a smooth talker naturally. You NEED to try. Especially if you're at the point where you're paying for workshops. You NEED to develop an opener and some "filler" talk. You NEED to peacock. You HAVE to try.

I understand that you don't want to appear "try-hard" as Mystery would say, but c'mon man. That's like saying you're going to get rich without trying.


TheSplat

BTW, did you do any field work at the workshop? If so, how did it go? Just curious.
It depends what you're trying for.

Are you trying to get women or are you trying to be a successful man?

If you're trying to get women, then that's exactly what he's talking about. You shouldn't be 'trying' to get women. Women should be trying to get you.

What a man should really be trying for is a successful, happy life in which he doesn't care about women unless they turn out to care about him.

We reward women with caring about them before we even know them, just based on looks. As soon as we give them this satisfaction, they know exactly how needy a man is, and opens her legs to a man who is not so willing to put in the effort for her.

The game of women isn't like the game of life.. they work very differently.
 

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I'm only 17 and I although I've heard all of that more than once I can't believe a 23 year old has your mindset. You gotta be a complete success with girls, if not, me and you need to co-write some book.


TheSplat said:
That's retarded. So just don't try at all? It works if you have really high confidence and are good looking and a smooth talker naturally. You NEED to try. Especially if you're at the point where you're paying for workshops. You NEED to develop an opener and some "filler" talk. You NEED to peacock. You HAVE to try.

I understand that you don't want to appear "try-hard" as Mystery would say, but c'mon man. That's like saying you're going to get rich without trying.


TheSplat

BTW, did you do any field work at the workshop? If so, how did it go? Just curious.
I just went there because it was a fair price lecture that promised new stuff. I'm drunk now, but in general I could just say he was a good speaker and that's what works for him but he generated enough interest for me to try to return if i can. I passed on the field because I was BY FAR the youngest person there - ya I shouldn't be drunk I know it was an accident
 

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Yes, you need to try, buy it needs to seem effortless.

I agree, if you just sit back and not try at all, you will almost never succeed. But if you give the "aura" of a person who doesn't give a fvck, when in reality you are trying, you will be successful.

For example, I'll cf girls, tease em a lil, be unpredictable, not return their calls. To them it may seem like I have little interest when in fact all these moves are done on purpose!

I think this is what Mystic is trying to say.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Dante420 said:
It was amazing because I was so interested I chose to listen rather then take notes most of the time.

One of the things he mentioned sounded really on point. He said "think about any famous landmark, they don't need a promotion to attract tourists. When was the last time you saw a commercial to draw people to visit the Statue of Liberty?"

He continued on about how attraction works, and said "The interest you obtain minus the effort your putting in equals the level of attraction you got going on. Interest minus effort equals attraction"
Since you don't have notes, it's hard to see the perspective he was talking about.

I'm guessing he's explaining Social Proof in the first case and Interest Level in the second.

Interest - Effort = Attraction / Her interest in you - your interest in her = Attraction
 
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