"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Mystery's show on VH1 [Merged Threads]

Do you think Mystery's VH1 show is:

  • Awesome idea!

    Votes: 27 32.1%
  • Great idea.

    Votes: 10 11.9%
  • Ok idea...

    Votes: 20 23.8%
  • Bad idea.

    Votes: 27 32.1%

  • Total voters
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e-lie

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Have u guys heard about this looks like hes getting his own show veterans like us are going to have some rivals lol:):down:
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I don't know if I like the idea.
Things are so overexposed as it is.

Next thing you know the stuff will be under bottle caps and on gum wrappers.

Worst case scenario: there's a big increase of noobs spitting bad game out there. Chicks then will just gravitate more toward the really good looking guys with game.
 

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It's bad enough he's been on ABC along with his buddy, and he's getting thousands of hits on YouTube. Now the guy gets a VH1 show? About what? Macking? He's going to go macking around town? Macking is easy when people know who you are.


Anyway, I guess we aren't so special anymore. :(
 

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Bling said:
Anyway, I guess we aren't so special anymore. :(
We never were special. Before the net guys managed to go out and get girls. By the time that I'd found this site (24 yrs old) I'd had a pretty easy time getting girls.

You wanna know the secret???

Dont be obsessed with the pus.

Make real friends guys or girls.

Dont be extreme. (i.e. dont be a know-it-all, dont be a complete clown, etc...Know how to have fun and relax)

If you dont get the outcome you desire learn from it.

Anyone who needs to pay a self-proclaimed pua a ridiculous amount of $$$ to break out of their shell would be better off paying a therapist to address their core issues.

He deserves a reality TV show, since reality TV is filled with nothing but people who are famous for the sake of being their fame. If you are actually worried that his show would impede your chances with girls then you obviously need to work on figuring out your own game.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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belividere said:
If you are actually worried that his show would impede your chances with girls then you obviously need to work on figuring out your own game.
I ain't worried about it.
But it kinda reminds me of that magician a few years back who use to do those tv specials where he would reveal the secrets to how magicians are doing the magic tricks.
First rule of fight club - don't talk about fight club.

I like Mystery, I bought his ebook. But a tv show about this is only good for Mystery, and is of no benefit to the community.

I'm just not too keen on seeing this get too mainstream. The last thing we need is a million guys doing magic tricks or the october man sequence in Klingon.

Either way, doesn't affect my game any.
 

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I wouldn't worry about it. All the "decision makers" at the network will do is turn this into yet one more opportunity to ridicule masculinity by making a mockery of Mystery Method and it's practicioners. Positive approaches to masculinity doesn't turn into advertising dollars - laughable, ridiculous attempts to understand women only to have them 'fix' these men and make them feminine does.
 

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jesusrules said:
damn that blows our game right there, that sucks. especially if you have been working hard out there reading all the material.
Speak for yourself.:D
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'm kind of burnt out on the whole PUA community advertising etc. To me it has brought alot of noobies in but most still suck.

I knew the **** hit the fan long ago when Mystery did a seminar at MIT.

All i know is that there is more than enough PVSSY for everyone out there. I'm in an LTR but run across several women every week I could close and sometimes I do it for the fun of it.
 

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The only reason I believe Mystery went through with the VH1 show is because he wants to destroy his creation and is more focused on making money then the community. He wants to destroy the entire community to get back at everyone. I spent alot of money on mystery's books and dvd's and now I have to worry about walking up to a girl in a club and no matter what opener I use she will most likely say nice opener what are you gunna do next a neg? or tell a story? maybe a magic trick? and on top of that Mystery's material will become so over used by nerds who will use the material incorrectly that the material will be worthless, the material will be equivelant to pick up lines that we laugh at now. All in all Mystery is going to destroy himself with this show and he will realize it in a coupe years, Mystery screws up everything he starts thats why he got kicked out of his own website mysterymethod.com My prediction is that girls will catch on to the community like fire and cosmo or some other magazine then will end up releasing a breakdown of what to do if one of these guys using these tactics approaches you, on top of that girls will think of guys using these routines as low value guys becuase they have to turn to material like this to pick up women. It will be a huge disaster and Mystery will be dispised by many.
 

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If he does make the show, i'm going to do something extreme.
 

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e-lie said:
Have u guys heard about this looks like hes getting his own show veterans like us are going to have some rivals lol:):down:

Yea him giving advice to guys on painting their nails and doing magic tricks for women will really hurt my game. :rolleyes:

PUAs are just a step above an AFC.
 

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game wise the guy is on top, no one can deny that. when he's on, few, including myself, have better skills at just randomly picking up women.. and I have no problem with that

however, how an unstable guy who has no balance in life, no real goals or ambitions and tries to kill himself when **** doesn't go his way and who is as narcissistic as he is, gets so praised to the level that he does I have no idea.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Oh no question about being a good puA.. he's one of if not the best. I pay omage when I see someone doing something worht while

but he said it in his book.. his life calling is magic.. not women. yet his **** wasn't in order. no one's **** was in order in that book.

you spin plates, they don't spin you.

I'm not on his level.. but I can go out right now, and I'm pretty confident by the end of the night I will have ass. but again.. my whole life doesn't revolve around it. i have other more important things to do. it's a PART of my life I'm glad I got resolved. but ***** isn't the end all be all.
 

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Positive approaches to masculinity doesn't turn into advertising dollars - laughable, ridiculous attempts to understand women only to have them 'fix' these men and make them feminine does.
so true


In a way, the exposing of our techniques is kinda sad. On the other hand, it's also a good excuse for us to give up the fakeness of speed seduction and persue becoming a real man.
 

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I think this sucks. Because women are going to be watching this stuff and what it will do is make them amp up the ***** shield even more assuming that any guy that so much as makes eye-contact with her is going into some scripted routine to manipulate her. This is not good.

The fewer women that know about the game, the better. Some guys are learning the game so they can sleep with as many women as possible, I can see why women would be apprehensive about such guys, but there are some guys like me who just want to get their sh*t together so that they can meet the right girl some day and get married feeling that they did their best.
 

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speakeasy said:
I think this sucks. Because women are going to be watching this stuff and what it will do is make them amp up the ***** shield even more assuming that any guy that so much as makes eye-contact with her is going into some scripted routine to manipulate her. This is not good.
Ironically this type of behavior would be the perfect time to neg them.:D

Seriously it isn't like girls are going to strap on chastity belts just because a pua has a reality show.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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