Mystery Method problem

[Freddy1]

I have been working with David deangelo's material (I have his Double Your Datind cds, Body Language, The Interviews and ****y Comedy). I tend find it incomplete or lacking. His Body Language dvds dont really get enough into kino and kino escalation. Mystery seems to have a pretty good game in this area. With Lance Mason's material his kino demos (in my opinion) is damn pretty solid; he even uses live female models to demonstrate the various kino's and body language.

I dont view Mysteries material as "short cut" at all. I havnt tested all of Mysteries material but from what I have so far tested they do work and work very well.

 

[Freddy1]

Think about someone having to lose weight. There are two ways really. Take a bunch of pills and fad diets, or live a healthy lifestyle where the weight will come off and stay off.

(From the very little I have seen of David X he's overweight abit, in his 50's and is still screwing younger women.)
Keep in mind I have nothing agaisnt losing weight or some self fitness program. Everyone should get into fitness of course.

It's all about Inner game. Get your inner game together, and everything else will fall into place.

I've been in the "community" off and on for nearly 10 years, and have tried numerous "methods" from numerous "gurus" and what became obvious after awhile is that no method, no matter how good, will not get results unless the inner game is fixed.

I agree that one needs inner game but I DONT believe its ONLY inner game that you will need. It still feels that it falls short.

And, having to DHV will only DLV - think about it.

I dont know about that. DLV difinatly wont get you anywhere from my personal bad experiences I have. Sometimes you have to practice DHV as part of your inner game ("Fake it till you make it").

 

[Freddy1]

Remember, for these seduction gurus, this is a business, and their in it to make money, to keep you hooked so you will keep coming back and buying more of their products.

It's not in their best financial interest to have you succeed.

I tend to agree. Most of the materials from these guys seems to be lacking in one area or another. It seems they deliberatly left out materials just to make it incomplete.


(having gone through David De Angelol, Ross Jeffries (b.s), Mystery)
For example: not having body langauge and kino will cause awkwardness and uncomfort with a girl. Not knowing what to say when having a conversation with a girl will turn her off. etc.

 

[Derek Flint]

Freddy1, you'll find that once your inner game is "fixed" you can throw away your "crutches" (routines, stories, gimmicks, etc...)

 

[Freddy1]

I dont know about throwing away "crutches". Alot of these guys like Tyler Durden do have their inner game together but they still resort to routines. Inner game doesnt necessarily tell you how to walk up to groups of girls (or girl/guy mix group) and not get shot down. It doesnt tell how to have a conversation with a women. It doesnt tell you how to deal with co*kblockers. It doesnt tell you how to have a threesome, building raport, building comfort, dealing with last minute resistance etc. I dont view them as "gimmicks" but I have tried some of the stuff and they do work. I do believe that inner game work is require (totally agree with you there my good friend) I dont believe everything will automatically fall in one's lap.

Telling stories does make you quite memorible & unforgetful to women (usually people dont forget stories). You tend to become the centre of attention and conversation in groups (alpha maleness). It does also make you more interesting in conversation than talking about the wheather. Besides Mystery, Juggler, Lance Mason and others uses them (I dont see any of them as having trouble with their inner game). Being an interesting coversationalist also boils down to other areas in your life.

 

[Freddy1]

One thing that sticks out in my mind right now is Carlos Castenada (author of Don Juan.. series of books); even though he wasnt a pick up artist he had a reputation for telling tall tales but one thing was that he attracted women like crazy and was polygamist. He had a house full of women to a point where it became a personality cult.
My friend as I mentioned earlier had alot of intrigueing tales and it seems women would always gravitate torwards him. He was often the centre of intention in groups. It seems women like that sort of stuff.

What causes charisma????

 

[Derek Flint]

What I'm getting at is once your inner game is together, you don't need those things anymore. Much of your ability to hold a set, approach groups, AMOG CB's and such will come naturally.

BTW, TD is way overrated and is not someone I would emulate.

If you read Style's book, you know why.

Lance is a good guy though. I know him from Project SF

Besides, I'd rather let her do most of the talking, because she will eventually give me the map and the directions on how to seduce her.

 

[Demon]

See my signature.

 

[Freddy1]

BTW, TD is way overrated and is not someone I would emulate.

If you read Style's book, you know why.

Yeah because he's back stabber. (in what he did to Mystery and Herbal.)
Hey what you think of Neil Strauss?

What I'm getting at is once your inner game is together, you don't need those things anymore. Much of your ability to hold a set, approach groups, AMOG CB's and such will come naturally.

I understand what your saying Dude.

The inner game area where I have been working at lately.

 

[Freddy1]

See my signature.

Thanks for the link.

 

[PigAdlemPimp]

Thanks for the suggestions guys. One thing I notice about a friend I use to know who tell alot of Tall Tales (forgive the pun) is that women tend to gravitate around him like candy. Like a good story teller makes one a chick magnet or something.

Most dudes are boring to listen to, they have no humour at all, why would any hot babe want to talk with them, use it to your advantage. :yes: