"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

My wings are really good-looking, to the point where it's becoming a problem

Masculinity

Master Don Juan
Joined
Mar 6, 2009
Messages
1,906
Reaction score
547
I have three guy friends I hangout with a lot that are good-looking, somewhere between 8.5-9's (no homo). They are really cool people and we have formed strong friendships--couldn't have asked for better friends.

I am the one with the most game and the most experience; however, I am about a 7 in looks, so relative to these dudes I am less attractive. They practically don't have to do anything and girls come talk to them OR if they build some courage to open, they girl is crazy happy when one of my friends opens. The opposite is true for me; I am successful sometimes, but I usually have to seek out the girl and get rejected a considerable part of the time.

I used to be really good at this; I was the guy pulling 2-3 girls a night at nightclubs when I was 19-21. But after breaking up with LTR of 3 years, I have been rusty (it has been almost 2 years now). I gained weight and basically lost a good part of my edge, while my proteges (the good looking guys) are thriving. I am really happy for them, but most of the time I simply get annoyed from being ignored while girls flock to my friends. I am currently working on losing weight (I have a pretty good build under the fat layer), but I do admit that I am self conscious about it. What do you all think?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

Read more...

TillTheEndOfTime

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 4, 2004
Messages
1,930
Reaction score
59
Obviously, looks matter. And that's why your friends are having success, even if you used to be the pack leader.

Work on getting back into shape and work on your confidence, because you seem really down on yourself. You're still extremely young. You did it before and you can obviously do it again. Just remember that and remember that life goes on beyond girls as well.

Don't make getting a girl the focus of your life. Getting your confidence back should be the top priority.
 
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Messages
85
Reaction score
5
hit up a few chicks on www.POF.com
keep trying until you get 2+ fukbunnies
lose the fat in the meantime, chisel your jaw

your neediness will totally drop, and you should be good to go

i dont think its a bad thing that you admit it, thats man of you
 

backbreaker

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 24, 2002
Messages
11,546
Reaction score
572
Location
monrovia, CA
my 2 best friends, i'm not gong to say they are better looking then me i'm a good looking dude, but both of them were very good looking dudes. one was more of a prototypical guy t, what women like, 6'2, chizzled, 12 pack

and i was the shortest of the three. and the youngest (by 2 weeks).

however, we played off each other quite well. all of us had game though by the time i was in my 20's i had more than both of them. what really helped me out was that, all three of us had very distinct different personalities. I'm preppy/a little high strung/i like to dress up so 9 out of 10 times i'm going to be the "cleanest" of the 3 of us. girls who liked that look gravitated towards me. Then the oldest of us was the most laid back of us of us and while i played the piano, he is the one who taught me how to play the piano he's a serious musician. he's very talanted and of the three of us, he was probably the most AFC of all three, he just was more popular than i was so girls gave him a longer leesh, but he was bad lol. so girls who were more of a clingy /LTR type gravitated towards him. and the middle one was the tall/chizzled one and he's the most playful of the three of us so he usually attracted the ones who just liked to party/have a good time.

all three of us kept girls interested and when one liked one, we worked off that there was no jealousy (until my one's started to look much better than theirs at least) . for a while there it was a thing of beauty. girl would know good and well im' out with another girl and they would call my friends and both woudl spend 30 or so minutes telling them how much i like them so i would be out doing my hing and i come home and not only is the girl not pissed she's cooked dinner and **** and she is happy because my friends have re assured her that i am really into her. that's ****ing friends for you right there. and i would do the same to them. the **** was fun as hell.

that's how friends are supposed to be i don't care how hot a girl is.

but you got to get back in shape.
 

SgtSplacker

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 18, 2011
Messages
2,039
Reaction score
504
News flash... your the wingman here!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

Top