"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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My Tinder experience

SayWhat

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Bought a new phone which was able to run Tinder, so I installed it.

I've had it for two weeks I think, it was never my intention to talk to any of them or get more out of it as I am in a very busy period with work and don't have the time. I would use it just to see what my market value is.

I worked as a waiter before where I've got many compliments on my looks. I've had friends telling me that girls were checking me out, were people telling me in my face that their friends were interested in me. So I thought I would do pretty good on something like Tinder.

Let's say I didn't do as good as I hoped, it even was so horrible I doubt myself completely now on my looks. I tried posting different pictures of myself, putting others first, show my hobby,... But nothing really got more interest.

I've had matches which lasted for a minute, so basically just girls looking for validation and then unmatch me as quickly as possible (hell I don't blame them, I was on it for that as well). I've had matches which 'stayed', they weren't bad looking, but they were not what I thought I was able to attract...

I didn't post anything about myself, it were just pictures (and only three), but still I don't understand. It did make me angry at them even more, which perhaps is a good thing.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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parkthebus

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Hypergamy. These women only accept the best looking men out there. In real life, that wouldn't be on offer but on tinder these men show their interest via continuous swiping. Tinder is for the very best looking people, hence the reason all the girls are so hot where as in real life they're usually a 7. If you can't handle the rejection, you need to get the **** off there mate.
 

Jetleg

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Like said, tinder is only worth your time if you're good looking or/and got good photos.

The average guy can get something here and there but if you look at the time investment to what you get, it aint worth it
 

Afrei

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I think that one of The problems with online dating and dating apps in general is that it put guys on a disadvantage.it is harder for girls to decide weather you are attractive or not by looks alone it has to do more with the kind of man you are, which is hard to capture in a few pictures. On the other hand, we male are the opposite we are very visual creature
 

Yewki

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Any time you get the urge to go on tinder, or log on to one of these OLD sites, you're probably better off just heading over to a nearby store/mall and talking to the first few interesting girls you see. The quality will be higher, the interactions will be more interesting, you'll get more experience, and probably better results. Or, just keep swiping and mass messaging delusional low quality women online.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Who Dares Win

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In terms of look I believe Im average, Im bigger than most guys but not enough to be seen through clothes, my personality is quite good so is my game but it surely doesnt help at the beginning on tinder.

So I either got low 6s and below to show intereste, 7s looking for instagram orbiters and a couple of 8 which made it clear from the beginning that they were looking for a relationship only and sex was out of the way for many dates.

Not interested in anything below a 7, surely not gonna be an instagram orbiter or an orbiter at all, and surely Im not gonna waste my life with weeks of dating just to get my d1ck wet, there was this girl who was quite pretty which invited me to go out did everything which shown high interest but did a conscioue effort to stop any kino or escalating from me only to remind me that she is not "one of those girls".

Since I stopped investing in unsure things from years I had to cut it short with a "it was nice to meet you" and disappear.

I decided that the best option for me is to improve my look, the way I dress and get decent photos and only then aim to the top, not gonna trade my standards or time.

If it doesnt work, I'll create some social circle game since apparently my personality helps me to score what my look doesnt.
 

SayWhat

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How do you guys deal with this? Hypergamy is in every woman and I don't blame them, but there is always a better guy than each and one of us. We do it too if we see a prettier and more fun girl.

How can you be serious with a girl if you know she'll get rid of you if someone better comes along and this someone better is not that far away. Yes I have very low self-esteem and basically everyone is better than me... Confidence is key yes, but it's a vicious circle where I can't get out of.
 

parkthebus

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How do you guys deal with this? Hypergamy is in every woman and I don't blame them, but there is always a better guy than each and one of us. We do it too if we see a prettier and more fun girl.

How can you be serious with a girl if you know she'll get rid of you if someone better comes along and this someone better is not that far away. Yes I have very low self-esteem and basically everyone is better than me... Confidence is key yes, but it's a vicious circle where I can't get out of.
You can. Can't is for things like, I can't climb a 90ft flat wall without help. If you really want to get out enough, you'll work hard until it happens.
 

Bible_Belt

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I'm not on Tinder, but it reminds me of POF. Whatever you think your own # rating is, take 2-3 points off of it, and you can fvck a steady stream of girls that hot. I have pics that make me look like a 9, so I can get easy sex with 7s. I have met a few HB8-9 girls, but typically they are lunatics.
 

Huffman

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I draw looks and even get cold approached in bars. But in most online sites, only uglies fatties and crazies message me. I guess that says it all. Thankfully I now get regular validation in real life, otherwise it would make me feel bad.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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skinnyguy

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Only low quality women go on tinder.

You need to have more respect for yourself. A man who respects himself will not subject himself to being objectified online. Even if you do sleep with a girl off Tinder, she is doing the SAME THING WITH A DIFFERENT GUY EVERY DAY.
 
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