“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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My thoughts on OLD

captain55

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I’ve hooked up with women that I would never stand a chance with online. While I’ve never been with an a list celebrity I’ve met women in real life that are semi famous. Not a chance in hell I would be able to pull one of these chicks online in the real world.

So my question is why do you guys do it?

I suppose if you are a 9 or 10 you might clean up online...but the hottest chicks will never be online anyways so if your a 10 in real life why the hell would you wanna date down?

There is absolutely no reason for a man to online date unless he has no time to go out or would rather bang 7’s with no effort and avoid the 9’s in real life...
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Convenience. That and it's a (really poor) source of dates when I'm trapped at work and don't have enough free time to go out finding girls.
 

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The same women offline are online. Most women have Facebook. Most single women are on Tinder, Bumble, Match, CMB, or an ethnic website. Women will rarely admit they are on dating websites, as it is devaluing.

The counter that hot women don't use OLD because they don't need to is patently false, as the orbiters who surround hot women are not men they want.

OLD is the most efficient and fastest way to numerous hot women of all caliber.

Being an OLD King takes work. It's not as simple as snapping a few selfies and posting them.

Most men are lazy and don't want to perfect their presentation and pic portfolio.

Hence, most men will do poorly online.
 

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numbers game, i click on nothing below a 7, i get 7 and 8 no problem
I am not good looking or high smv... its the opener and follow up, OLD for women is 90% psychological
 

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I’ve hooked up with women that I would never stand a chance with online. While I’ve never been with an a list celebrity I’ve met women in real life that are semi famous. Not a chance in hell I would be able to pull one of these chicks online in the real world.

So my question is why do you guys do it?

I suppose if you are a 9 or 10 you might clean up online...but the hottest chicks will never be online anyways so if your a 10 in real life why the hell would you wanna date down?

There is absolutely no reason for a man to online date unless he has no time to go out or would rather bang 7’s with no effort and avoid the 9’s in real life...
its comfortable especially for weirdos.
what is uncomfortable is that 99% chicks there think they have GoLDeN VaGaInA AND they make great use of app trashing 90% of men there.

what i hate the most is when these st*pid c*nts make you waste weeks txting with them saying how they will eat ur semen or sending u naked pics then flaking on first meeting and removing ur number right afterwards.

even if not weeks, they will still TALK WITH YOU for HOURS or DAYS because they gain DOPAMINE SHOTS from having guys like ME and YOU texting with them trying to make them meet us, while women in example usually all can do is:
- put a make up
- selfies
and thats it

like srsly, quit the goddamn dating app if you dont plan to meet, its plain dumb and waste time of both of us


or women that are there for years without quitting it. these are worst.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

MoreThanSmooth

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its comfortable especially for weirdos.
what is uncomfortable is that 99% chicks there think they have GoLDeN VaGaInA AND they make great use of app trashing 90% of men there.

what i hate the most is when these st*pid c*nts make you waste weeks txting with them saying how they will eat ur semen or sending u naked pics then flaking on first meeting and removing ur number right afterwards.
At least you're getting to the stage you're getting nudes. I don't even get that far - though at the same time I've never wasted weeks on a chick. I've normally worked out in 3 days or so whether they're timewasters.

I'd say 90% of women are only on there to ego-stroke themselves. Seriously. It's so rare to get an actual date, the last 4 girls I've got numbers off of have flaked.

I've even had one girl give me her number, arrange a date, flake, delete her profile and then 4 weeks later re-create her profile and match me again. WTF?

Hilarious as well that to be successful on there as a man you have to be:
- Good looking
- Good at talking
- Funny
- Have expertly crafted photos (professional standard) and bio

And that's just to even stand a CHANCE of a match. Whereas even the most out of shape girl just has to take a s***ty mirror selfie and she gets 10 messages a day. Blargh.

These sites even have videos that are like "Men, get your s*** together if you want to get a match, LOL" and they complement these vids by showing some podgy everyman hooking up with a hot chick on there that would NEVER date him on that site in RL in a million years.
 

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what i hate the most is when these st*pid c*nts make you waste weeks txting with them
Don't do this then. Set up a date within 5-7 messages, otherwise go ghost.
 

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It's a different market. I've seduced plenty of women over Facebook that would not give me the time of day on OLD, with even worse pics on Facebook since they're mostly taken by others
Wasn't comparing the two. You need Facebook for Tinder, Bumble, and CMB, so naturally when girls on Facebook get single, they go onto these sites.
sosousage said:
even if not weeks, they will still TALK WITH YOU for HOURS or DAYS because they gain DOPAMINE SHOTS from having guys like ME and YOU texting with them trying to make them meet us, while women in example usually all can do is:
Get the number within 2-3 messages, date within 2-3 texts, and schedule 2-3 dates for the same day, same time. Absolutely no reason to spend more than a few minutes per girl.

MoreThanSmooth said:
I've normally worked out in 3 days or so whether they're timewasters.
2-3 minutes per girl maximum. See above.
MoreThanSmooth said:
Seriously. It's so rare to get an actual date, the last 4 girls I've got numbers off of have flaked.
Double- and triple-book dates, and rain-check if all scheduled want to appear. With less rapport (as in 2-3 messages, 2-3 texts), more flakes occur, but that's OK if you have scheduled 5-6 for the weekend.
 

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Your delusional OP....All women crave attention...and ALL women will set up at least one dating profile online so your statement that some women are such a high caliber as to never go online is grade A bullsh!t...
 

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Your delusional OP....All women crave attention...and ALL women will set up at least one dating profile online so your statement that some women are such a high caliber as to never go online is grade A bullsh!t...
i see a lot of 10s (look wise) on old.
tattoos, tanned body, fit, + perfect photos and good face, sometimes even with big ass n tits. i swipe them left. tbh on old even fatties will chat with u for attention but wont actually meet
 

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i see a lot of 10s (look wise) on old.
tattoos, tanned body, fit, + perfect photos and good face, sometimes even with big ass n tits. i swipe them left. tbh on old even fatties will chat with u for attention but wont actually meet
OLD is all about looks...if your ugly you will have a tough time on OLD (just like in life) :lol:
 
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