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You think this is funny?You are literally playing the game on Death March difficulty level lol
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You think this is funny?You are literally playing the game on Death March difficulty level lol
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I don't necessarily think the factors I mentioned are why I have hardly any social life.Yet, if the OP were a chick, none of these would be an impediment to having a social life.
Or if the OP were a dude, but tall, these would not be an impediment either.![]()
You don't have social events at your office?I don't necessarily think the factors I mentioned are why I have hardly any social life.
My lack of a social life is largely my own choice. All I'm saying is my lack of a social life is yet another thing that would make a woman think I'm bad news.
Leaders in general have an easy time getting laid (whether it be political leaders, business leaders, frontman of a famous band, etc).Heck, the extremists in ISIS couldn't keep the poontang away, so I don't agree with this assessment. Pol Pot wasn't a RiceCel.![]()
For 15 years now, I've been accused of feeling owed (not just when it comes to a woman; in other contexts too). Pisses me off.OP you have to understand the world does not owe you anything
Ok you've got personal issues , find me someone who doesn't ?
Find solutions to the issues and improve yourself , then worry about women
its not rocket science to understand a woman wants the best type of man she can get and vice versa
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
We have a decent amount of daytime teambuilding exercises. As for events outside of work, hardly ever. Don't get me wrong; a lot of employees are friends outside of work. But as for work-sanctioned events outside of work, I only recall one in the 5 years I've been at this job. I didn't go.You don't have social events at your office?
We had that thread already https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...me-to-try-with-making-moves-in-person.282277/Come to think of it, I suppose the topic warrants its own thread
Just may be astute to devote at least 10-15% of your energy on this part of your life then, hombre, and worry a little less about snagging a piece of assThe fact that I have no career or income stability.
Different tactics and strategies are required to achieve different goals in different scenarios. George Wills's talent for slathering the pages of WaPo in bombast doesn't mean he can acquit himself competently on the ball fieldEvidently though his income/vehicle/home ownership hasn't gotten him anywhere with the ladies. I guess what I'm saying is even if you have stuff going for you, there's still no guarantee you'll succeed sexually.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
If you're living in The US, what you describe has been getting more and more common over that past two decades, GM. Ergo, hooking up with women on your "side" will likely to be remarkably easy, while "vibing" with a chick who's NOT a fanatic will be nigh impossibleThe fact I hold extreme political beliefs (Since we aren't supposed to talk politics on this forum, I won't get into my exact beliefs. The point is: Extreme political beliefs in either direction can hurt your chances with the ladies. Extreme beliefs are called extreme for a reason
That thread you linked isn't quite the same.We had that thread already https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...me-to-try-with-making-moves-in-person.282277/
It was, quite frankly, less productive than trying to persuade The Aryans and The Black Guerilla Family over at Pelican Bay to stop stabbing each other through their necks with homemade shivs during yardtime, in favor of hugging things out instead. Unless you're receptive to suggestions this time around, there's no evidence supporting the hypothesis that THIS thread will be any different
Goes without saying, I hope I'm wrong... All of us here DO want to see you succeed, GM. We wouldn't be on your case so ferociously otherwise
I said I won't get into my exact beliefs (and I won't). But let's just say "my side" tends to be a sausage fest.If you're living in The US, what you describe has been getting more and more common over that past two decades, GM. Ergo, hooking up with women on your "side" will likely to be remarkably easy, while "vibing" with a chick who's NOT a fanatic will be nigh impossible
Your fear on this front is irrational
I can't help the fact the beliefs I hold happen to be way more popular with men.Seems to be the wrong crowd to hang around if you want to score some booty.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
This is a good way to describe it. @GoodMan32 has done well finding 9 sex partners through "conventional dating" given all of that.You are literally playing the game on Death March difficulty level lol
That guy BeardTrimMogs me.Maybe get them some cats? Works for me.
Oh no, I have a very good beard - I have been congratulated at the Beard Board for mine, when I let it grow (I keep it closely shaved to 8 mm when I am in PUA mode).Every man beardmogs you.
I must say your assessment of me is all over the place.This is a good way to describe it. @GoodMan32 has done well finding 9 sex partners through "conventional dating" given all of that.
You can want as much as you please nobody cares about your wants aside from maybe your parents and maybe other very close family membersFor 15 years now, I've been accused of feeling owed (not just when it comes to a woman; in other contexts too). Pisses me off.
There's a huge difference between feeling owed something vs simply wanting something.
Ironically, the year I had the best luck with getting laid (2012), I was a student with no income whatsoever. Yet in the current stage of life, where I have a full time job (albeit with a low income), I have worse luck with the ladies? What a thinker.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.