"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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My Secret To Attracting and Keeping A Woman

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Hey guys, been a while. Used to be a very active member of this forum and been thinking a lot lately since i've been out of "the game" and focusing on my career / financial life now.

Background:

Was a virgin until 22, after finding this forum I applied everything I learned and had sex with over 150 woman in 4 year period from Online Dating. I've been in all different type of situations, some good, some bad, some in-between.

My Secret:
1.
Make enough money to provide for her and a possible family, don't let money become an issue.
2. Be in your own world and invite her into your world, but be clear you can walk away and find another woman at anytime.
3. Stand up for yourself, but don't put yourself in bad situations where you are needed to fight (If it comes down to it, it comes down to it, but keep a look out on woman who egg you on, they are crazy and drama causing short and long term)
4. Don't be needy
5. Take risks, in the right areas, go hang gliding, surfing, be a fun person to be around

Crissco
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Great stuff mate. It’s a healthy medium.

I see a lot of posts of people fluctuating wildly from one extreme to the other. This is all part of the process and eventually you find a sweet spot.

Quick Q: why did you come back? Was it curiosity?
 

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I still browse from time to time to keep my knowledge fresh and compare my old thoughts an beliefs to my new thoughts and beliefs. I'm not back so to speak, i just go in my phases. But at 30 im working work, my skill set, and my business first over woman. I know I can get woman whenever I want, i'm just not as obsessive as I was in my 20s.
 

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1. Be lucky enough to hit the lotto and find a genuine and honorable woman with morals. Everything else falls into place.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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1. Don't marry them or move them in, if you end up moving them in, put them over the garage but under no circumstances do you marry them.
 

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Exactly why I don’t come here often anymore lol...Options / the Internet plays a big big role as well.

One thing most people forget is this, you are the MAN. She needs to be aware of that at all times, consistency is key. You slip she loses respect. I know easier said then done.

Ever had a woman that motivated you but you where able to deal her with her?

2. Accept people will cheat, men will cheat woman will cheat grab your balls and move on...Or have an open marriage and truely be okay with you.

Me: No marriage because if someone likes you and you like them and want the sex and companionship you’ll stay together. Labels, terms...etc is what ruined people. We are ALL selfish at the core, it’s values and knowledge that differ. Keep it positive but keep it in reality.

I truely don’t believe there is any secret but it comes down to what you will let slide how much you care on the inside and if you would rather be with someone then be loney...


Just start observing other couples and people in general and learn from your friends or aquantences mistakes and successes then you’ll see what I mean. And actually think. Not “she’s a *****” type of impulse thinking.

“Everyone wants their cake and to eat it too but what are you willing to deal with to get it and keep it going”
 

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I know it’s a joke but relationships are a process not an event
Of course. My point however is that if you aren't lucky enough to find a good girl no matter the process it won't work out.
 

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Yea but also you can screen. A lot also comes down to 1. age, 2. where you are in life and where you are headed. Ive had woman love me because they believe in because of my determination and zest for life and learning. They loved my mind, others where there "just for the ride" since i erk their emotions in the correct way then I started to get bored and depressed in ways and we broke up since that "ride of emotions" where over. - That is the type of woman I dont want since we all get sad from time to time and I would hope and expect my woman to be there for me to help lift me up at times. - To me like im sure alot of us the point is to build a life and most importantly experiences and memories.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yea but also you can screen. A lot also comes down to 1. age, 2. where you are in life and where you are headed. Ive had woman love me because they believe in because of my determination and zest for life and learning. They loved my mind, others where there "just for the ride" since i erk their emotions in the correct way then I started to get bored and depressed in ways and we broke up since that "ride of emotions" where over. - That is the type of woman I dont want since we all get sad from time to time and I would hope and expect my woman to be there for me to help lift me up at times. - To me like im sure alot of us the point is to build a life and most importantly experiences and memories.
Makes sense.
Instead I get a woman who is a spoiled brat entitled npd who thinks the world revolves around her and if it doesn't for a min she lays in a bed depressed.
Or for no reason just gets depresssed and lays in a bed while life could be enjoyed daily. I think a lot of this is girls not beig gracious and appreciating their blessings. Instead they focus on what they aren't getting. They are insane.
 

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Hey guys, been a while. Used to be a very active member of this forum and been thinking a lot lately since i've been out of "the game" and focusing on my career / financial life now.

Background:

Was a virgin until 22, after finding this forum I applied everything I learned and had sex with over 150 woman in 4 year period from Online Dating. I've been in all different type of situations, some good, some bad, some in-between.

My Secret:
1.
Make enough money to provide for her and a possible family, don't let money become an issue.
2. Be in your own world and invite her into your world, but be clear you can walk away and find another woman at anytime.
3. Stand up for yourself, but don't put yourself in bad situations where you are needed to fight (If it comes down to it, it comes down to it, but keep a look out on woman who egg you on, they are crazy and drama causing short and long term)
4. Don't be needy
5. Take risks, in the right areas, go hang gliding, surfing, be a fun person to be around

Crissco
Congrats on making sure your priorities are aligned properly. Your career, investments, and financial passions should always be NUMBER ONE. Your health, workouts, style and looks should be NUMBER TWO.

I've always said if you fix your looks, finances, and personality.....you will be considered "attractive" to women in general. From there, all you need to do is play the numbers game of approach 20 women, get 11 numbers, get 5 dates, and fvck 2 of the 5 dates.

Life is BOOMING in the Short Term Dating Market. Now, once you cross over into the Long Term Dating Market, that's where shyt hits the fan.
 

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150 in 4yrs?! Damn bro that's some impressive shït dude. That's 37.5 a year and about 3.125 a month. Almost to the point where I don't believe you but ether way I don't really care. You must have been exhausted after that run man. Ha!

Major props tho cause a lot of guys come her and it takes a looong time for them to learn. I would say the majority learn very little and or ignore the information completely.

I'll play devils advocate, I don't agree with rule #1. She needs to provide for herself and have her own finances on point. Otherwise she's just a plate, not ltr material. Just my 2 sense.
 
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Im serious, I know it seems like a lot but im damn good at what I do. Online Dating and push pull is my bread and butter. - And agreed, all depends on the person. Personally, I want to be the provider for the family.
 

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Congrats on making sure your priorities are aligned properly. Your career, investments, and financial passions should always be NUMBER ONE. Your health, workouts, style and looks should be NUMBER TWO.

I've always said if you fix your looks, finances, and personality.....you will be considered "attractive" to women in general. From there, all you need to do is play the numbers game of approach 20 women, get 11 numbers, get 5 dates, and fvck 2 of the 5 dates.

Life is BOOMING in the Short Term Dating Market. Now, once you cross over into the Long Term Dating Market, that's where shyt hits the fan.
Yup, that's hypergamy.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I don't believe you, and why you want to sleep with 150 women in a short amount of time anyways? That's nothing to boast about.
 

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I know it’s a joke but relationships are a process not an event
What relationships have you even had? Being with 150 girls in 4 years there is no way you have had a real relationship unless it was a few months or so.

You got the gig off banging girls but finding the quality life partner is the goal here.

Anything else I dont have time for. No needed games and chasing women and fake dating to get tail. For me anyways.
 

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For all we know, this guy could be a well known celebrity. I'm sure famous athletes, rappers, singers etc have no problem going through 150 women in four years. That's one of the perks of being famous, hot women pretty much throw themselves at you.

As for the rest of us, that's a number which would be impossible in that short amount of time unless you're paying for it which in your case would be 3 times a month.
 

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Guys im not a celeb lmao, I lived with my father for 6 years, I work from home and had all the time in the world....
 

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What relationships have you even had? Being with 150 girls in 4 years there is no way you have had a real relationship unless it was a few months or so.

You got the gig off banging girls but finding the quality life partner is the goal here.

Anything else I dont have time for. No needed games and chasing women and fake dating to get tail. For me anyways.
Exactly, im at the point now, I realize I need an alpha woman in my life, I look back at my past relationships and all the woman, my last relationship was two years ago and the past two years ive just been thinking and thinking and putting pieces together for myself. - Also everyone at some point is going to cheat, alot comes from where in life you are and your experiences, values, acceptance
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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