"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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My roommate looks like JFK Jr. - MAJOR PROBLEM IN THE FIELD

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So my roommate looks a lot like JFK Jr., and when we go out to bars and clubs, he gets considerably more (if not all) IOIs than I do :mad: . The problem is I don't really have another friend out here I can hit the scene with (just moved to a new city) :cuss: , so I'm left wondering if it is better for me to go it alone and get what I can, or continue to play second-fiddle to a guy way better looking than me.

At this point, I think I might be better off just trying to scavenge my roommates leftovers. What say you, sosuave?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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pinhas

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You’re looking at it from the wrong perspective; you should use him as social proof and use his good looks for your advantage. Girls like seeing you with other people that they consider "high in status".

The mere fact that you’re hanging out with JFK Jr. should elevate you to a higher status in their eyes. Now it’s up to you to find a way to use this; don’t let his looks threaten you or overshadow you. Use it to your advantage; joke about his looks, call him movie star and pretend to be his agent, come up with interesting stories you two can talk about and create situations where his looks and your "game" mesh together as an unstoppable pick up machine.

Learn to look at the positive aspect of things, use the cards you were dealt to the best of your ability.
 

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Focus on the development of your charisma, approaches, charm, etc.
 

Quiksilver

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Having a model'esque (not just good looking) friend to game with is like having a Maserati in the garage. Why would you toss it away? It looks better than you, but you can use it to leverage more ladies. Like a spider setting up its web beside a light bulb. The moths are attracted to the light bulb but the spider gets some play because it's smarter.

I took a Machiavellian approach with a pretty boy I used to go to bars with a few years ago. I used to set him up with girls, ie. feed him ladies. I was the guy who would have a foot in the door with lots of groups of people, and was able to hook people up like that. This would make it easier for him but also get him out of the way as far as gaming at clubs/bars. After a few months he became almost dependent on me without knowing why. He would always get to the bar or something and I'd have called up a couple girl friends of mine to come hang out and tell one of them that me mate is 'in the market'. He'd end up in these long convos with girls I wasn't interested in and would add some mad social proof.

I became the 'alpha' of us through that pretty much. Also, if he's got a harem of hot girls floating around him, just be straight forward and ask him to set you up with one. No shame in using the situation to your advantage.
 

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My best friend look like that and he is 20 years old. I have used him as a exeptional wingman all the time and he get me to meet women all the time. Not of his age but older. He is also a person that is a bit afc when it comes to finnish or escalate furter to sex. But when I'm with him it's always fun and I can get to mee(a)t some girls down the road :) I met his former boss from a business store and we where together for 5 month. Great sex.

Next weekend we are having a great party and I get to meet his teacher from the last class he attended. I see him as a resource.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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TheBucketOfTruth

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I 2nd what others have said. See it as a positive and use it as a resource rather than seeing it as a stumbling block or limitation for you. If Brad Pitt was your best friend you may be in his shadow somewhat, but if you even have decent game you'd probably pick up hotter chicks just by being around him and associated with him than you would by yourself.
 

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I am in a similar situation.

And although it can be annoying; to see girls that I'd easilly bang become his soulmates or whatnots (after knowing him for a day LOL). I usually use it to my advantage; and I am the alpha, he even lets me be. So it's basically a win win, I just have to sometimes let some ladies fly.

But do you have any advice on landing hot babes that he's not interested in? Often they are drooling for him, and I'm sort of hovering about; "I'll bang you, because he won't!". But they just tell me they want him, usually I just back off and approach some other group. Any tips on how to turn it around?
 

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Well I know that this can't actually be a problem because Just a Shot Away has assured us that women are not attracted to looks.
 

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Good looks can only take you so far. You still need charisma and balls so seal the deal. Use him to draw women closer to you.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Just a Shot Away

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zekko said:
Well I know that this can't actually be a problem because Just a Shot Away has assured us that women are not attracted to looks.
Check this guy's posting history. This is the same poster who copy-pasted my profile picture to try to pass it off as his own. I'll let you decide how likely it is that the OP is describing a real-life problem.
 
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Just a Shot Away said:
Check this guy's posting history. This is the same poster who copy-pasted my profile picture to try to pass it off as his own. I'll let you decide how likely it is that the OP is describing a real-life problem.
Are you kidding me? I think you have me confused with someone else. Besides, you're Deus ex Pianoforte - the poster who stole another poster's password through private messages and hijacked his account. Hopefully this moniker will last longer than that one.

Also, what about my post history?
 

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It's one thing to have a friend that is charismatic, knows lot of people, etc. Women then associate you with the fun "cool crowd" kind of like high school. That can be a great asset.

But I don't know about winging with a hot guy. They just want his cute face and tall nice body. How does that help you? How does that lust transfer over to you? I don't see how it does.

I used to wing with a guy that could have been a male stripper. I never got laid winging with him. I just watched hot girls grind on him and try to go home with him. Once a HB8 approached me and told me I was a good looking guy and i should go find a girl to fook. She then hit on my buddy and got his number.

I didn't start getting makeouts and lays until I started going out alone.
 

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I'm amazed at how many people are afraid to go out alone and do anything, let alone 'sarge'. OF COURSE you should go out by yourself. Don't live your whole life relying on the mere presence of friends and roommates to supply you with courage & confidence.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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