My relationship with HB is going nowhere....

[Rollo Tomassi]

I don't think this is sound advice Rollo. I buy that it's something a man who wants to be a "DJ" or "player" should stick to, but I don't think it's a sound principle in and of itself as far as the question of women goes.

Notice I didn't state, "NEXT a girl if she isn't intimate with you by the 3rd date"? My rule is that you aren't a woman's highest priority if she is implicitly making you wait for sex. This is an establishment of a frame that leans in her favor and a sh!t test meant to determine your level of self confidence. By allowing a woman to 'hold out' on you, she determines that you have no other options for intimacy with any potential competing women and can then establish her own frame for any (if any) relationship that may result.

To guys unfamiliar with my writing, a lot of what I propose sounds like "go get yours" advice for 'players', but nothing could be further from the truth. Everything I offer on this forum is born from a need for pragmatism that I believe has been sorely lacking in men for the last 30+ years. Having a "zero tolerance" 3-strike rule isn't some cruel tactic meant to punish women for not "giving it up" on our own schedules (and most AFCs will see it in binary terms like this), but after 3 dates a learned DJ should realize that IL is what it is and doing a takeaway at this point serves him better and puts the onus of pursuing any relationship with her back on the woman. Not only is this a time and effort saving rule, it also send the covert message to a woman that a man has other options for female intimacy (whether perceived or actual) and his attention is in fact a commodity other women will compete for. This gives the impression of him being 'in demand' and therefore needing her less than she needs him. This aids in establishing the frame of any relationship being in his direction.

Women who use the "wait for sex" strategem love to tell men "they have rules", it's time men had rules too. Who's self-respect is more impugned, the woman who'd be offended by the idea of sleeping with a man by date 3 or the man who'd wait months on end being led on by the promise of sex by the same woman?

And all that aside, trust me, if you're the right Man, a woman will want to fukk you. The hot coed on spring break fukking the guy she met an hour prior in the foam cannon party in Cancun is the same girl who'll want to just cuddle up on her bed and tell you she's "just not comfortable enough with you yet."

 

[DJDamage]

And all that aside, trust me, if you're the right Man, a woman will want to fukk you. The hot coed on spring break fukking the guy she met an hour prior in the foam cannon party in Cancun is the same girl who'll want to just cuddle up on her bed and tell you she's "just not comfortable enough with you yet."

LOL its so true.