My problem with women.

[Chillisauce]

Hey, from what i have read on this forum and gathered from my conversations with male friends - its easier to get a date with a girl than a kiss/sex. So why is it i have the opposite problem, try as i might i cant get a girlfriend yet most nights i go out i end up in a woman's bed.

I don't believe i target sluts (maybe subconsciously, i dunno), my quality is well above my friend's standards (6-8). An example of this is last saturday: i went out to a restraunt with 10 friends to celebrate a birthday, then clubbing. By the end of the night i had hooked up with 4 women, collected 5 numbers and slept with one. But heres the part i dont understand, through the week i'v called them up and got a pretty universal 'NO' from girl's who saturday night were very much into me.

Sorry if this came off as a rant, i'm just pissed and confused and my self esteem is starting to take a beating.. Mayb i'm that sheila you wake up next to in the morning and go '**** no!'. Any advice is welcome.

 

[Tomatoes]

You may be doing everything right when it comes to pulling on the night out but it sounds like you might be going about asking them to spend more time with you the wrong way. When it came to asking them to go out again what did you say? How did you say it? Were you persistant? I feel its this stage where you will be going wrong.

In regards to waking up with girls and them thinking oh ****. I doubt this is the case unless you target serious drunk girls every time.

 

[Chillisauce]

Originally posted by Tomatoes
You may be doing everything right when it comes to pulling on the night out but it sounds like you might be going about asking them to spend more time with you the wrong way. When it came to asking them to go out again what did you say? How did you say it? Were you persistant? I feel its this stage where you will be going wrong.

In regards to waking up with girls and them thinking oh ****. I doubt this is the case unless you target serious drunk girls every time.

I'm usually more drunk than the girls i pickup. I dont say anything really, just ask for their number after i hook up with them. Mayb its my phone game or something, out of all the numbers i'v taken i'v had 2 dates and more flakes/ polite no's than i'd believe possible. Thanks for the help.

 

[Bonhomme]

You're way better in person than once they get out of physical reach. I have the same sort of problem, despite working on the other stuff (improving my voice, phone presentation, etc.).