Shivastorm_88
Senior Don Juan
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You guys tend to label both of them as extremely bad, especially the Nice Guy. Usually the nice guy is described as an AFC chump, a spineless guy who will do the women's bidding to no end and does not think for his own or about himself, but only about pleasing women.
That part, it's true, is real bad and NO ONE should do that. After all, if the woman you are currently "worshiping" dies, it will make you sad for a few days, but as time passes you will forget her and move on to another woman. However, you are immortal as long as you live. This means that there is no way to forget about yourself, you will always feel your own feelings. The woman dies, her memory vanishes from your mind, she is erased. Gone. Yet, you own emotions cannot die, you cannot forget about them, and they cannot be erased. That is why I think that about this part, what this site labels as Nice Guys (aka: spineless guys) is appropriate and should be avoided at all costs. Women aren't eternal, they come and go, but you are. That is why you are much more important than the women you "worship".
Where I disagree with what I tend to read on this website is that you guys tend to say that EVERYTHING about Nice Guys is bad, and they shouldn't act like it at all. Acting like a spineless chump is true, yet there are some good even in Nice Guys. These guys are very respectful of women and treat them right, they just over-exaggerate it. Basically, they are acting right with women, but they take it to an extreme and that is what is bad. However, I still find that respect is very important, and therefore it's important to respect and treat women as human beings, not a piece of ass that you **** and ditch. Learning to respect women and see them more then just a piece of ass is something very important that the Nice Guys do, yet they unfortunately take it to an extreme, and they are so scared of being disrespectful to them that they completely block off their sexuality.
On the other hand, we have the Jerks. Them guys who get women, but all they want is to **** them and discard them after. Some of you guys seem to think it's the way to go, and whether you like it or not, a lot of you seem to make it your goal to **** women left and right. So this is how you label the jerks. Some find it better then the Nice Guy, some worse, but I just find that it's the opposite from the Nice Guy, kind of like the Ying and the Yang.
Sure the Jerk, in my opinion, has a lot of bad aspects, like they disrespect women and take it to an extreme, they do not care about fulfillment or anything, just to sleep with women. However, they do have an important aspect that Nice Guys do not have: Since they do not care about disrespecting women, they treat them like dirt, over-expose their sexuality yet still get them because women, as we all know, are attracted to over-sexualized males.
So basically by what I said, we can see that both the Jerks and the Nice Guys have their pros and cons:
Jerk
Pros:
- Isn't afraid of his sexuality
Cons:
- They take it to an extreme, and become highly disrespectful to women
- They don't care about improving themselves as long as they get what they want
Nice Guys
Pros:
- They are very respectful of women
- They try to improve themselves/act as good as possible
Cons:
- They take the respect to an extreme, and appear like spineless chumps that repulse women
- They do try to improve themselves/act as good as possible, but for bad reason: to get women instead of for themselves
So basically I've summed up the impression that I get from you guys opinion on Jerks and Nice guys (very resumed, but still) and you all seem to label them as bad. They are on some aspects, since both of them have cons, but they also have pros. The Nice Guy is respectful, but too much. He tries to improve himself/act as good as possible, but for the bad reason. As for the Jerk, he isn't afraid of his sexuality at all, and in fact he exposes it too much and lose all sense of respect and accomplishment as long as he gets girls. Basically both of them see the success in getting girls -_-
So my point is, instead of labeling the both of them as BAD, why don't you see that both of them have good aspects, that theyr are both each other's opposites, like the ying and the yang, and that by combining them together, you can get something complete? Like the ying-yang
Basically what I'm saying is: Like Nice Guys, be respectful of women, but don't over-exaggerate it. Also, try to act your best and to constantly improve yourself, but do it for YOU, not them, since like I said, you are immortal, they aren't. On the other side, like Jerks, do NOT be afraid of your sexuality!!!! By being too respectful you tend to block it, so lose a little of that respect and act more like what you are: a MALE.
anyways that's my .02 cents, feel free to bash me if you disagree
That part, it's true, is real bad and NO ONE should do that. After all, if the woman you are currently "worshiping" dies, it will make you sad for a few days, but as time passes you will forget her and move on to another woman. However, you are immortal as long as you live. This means that there is no way to forget about yourself, you will always feel your own feelings. The woman dies, her memory vanishes from your mind, she is erased. Gone. Yet, you own emotions cannot die, you cannot forget about them, and they cannot be erased. That is why I think that about this part, what this site labels as Nice Guys (aka: spineless guys) is appropriate and should be avoided at all costs. Women aren't eternal, they come and go, but you are. That is why you are much more important than the women you "worship".
Where I disagree with what I tend to read on this website is that you guys tend to say that EVERYTHING about Nice Guys is bad, and they shouldn't act like it at all. Acting like a spineless chump is true, yet there are some good even in Nice Guys. These guys are very respectful of women and treat them right, they just over-exaggerate it. Basically, they are acting right with women, but they take it to an extreme and that is what is bad. However, I still find that respect is very important, and therefore it's important to respect and treat women as human beings, not a piece of ass that you **** and ditch. Learning to respect women and see them more then just a piece of ass is something very important that the Nice Guys do, yet they unfortunately take it to an extreme, and they are so scared of being disrespectful to them that they completely block off their sexuality.
On the other hand, we have the Jerks. Them guys who get women, but all they want is to **** them and discard them after. Some of you guys seem to think it's the way to go, and whether you like it or not, a lot of you seem to make it your goal to **** women left and right. So this is how you label the jerks. Some find it better then the Nice Guy, some worse, but I just find that it's the opposite from the Nice Guy, kind of like the Ying and the Yang.
Sure the Jerk, in my opinion, has a lot of bad aspects, like they disrespect women and take it to an extreme, they do not care about fulfillment or anything, just to sleep with women. However, they do have an important aspect that Nice Guys do not have: Since they do not care about disrespecting women, they treat them like dirt, over-expose their sexuality yet still get them because women, as we all know, are attracted to over-sexualized males.
So basically by what I said, we can see that both the Jerks and the Nice Guys have their pros and cons:
Jerk
Pros:
- Isn't afraid of his sexuality
Cons:
- They take it to an extreme, and become highly disrespectful to women
- They don't care about improving themselves as long as they get what they want
Nice Guys
Pros:
- They are very respectful of women
- They try to improve themselves/act as good as possible
Cons:
- They take the respect to an extreme, and appear like spineless chumps that repulse women
- They do try to improve themselves/act as good as possible, but for bad reason: to get women instead of for themselves
So basically I've summed up the impression that I get from you guys opinion on Jerks and Nice guys (very resumed, but still) and you all seem to label them as bad. They are on some aspects, since both of them have cons, but they also have pros. The Nice Guy is respectful, but too much. He tries to improve himself/act as good as possible, but for the bad reason. As for the Jerk, he isn't afraid of his sexuality at all, and in fact he exposes it too much and lose all sense of respect and accomplishment as long as he gets girls. Basically both of them see the success in getting girls -_-
So my point is, instead of labeling the both of them as BAD, why don't you see that both of them have good aspects, that theyr are both each other's opposites, like the ying and the yang, and that by combining them together, you can get something complete? Like the ying-yang
Basically what I'm saying is: Like Nice Guys, be respectful of women, but don't over-exaggerate it. Also, try to act your best and to constantly improve yourself, but do it for YOU, not them, since like I said, you are immortal, they aren't. On the other side, like Jerks, do NOT be afraid of your sexuality!!!! By being too respectful you tend to block it, so lose a little of that respect and act more like what you are: a MALE.
anyways that's my .02 cents, feel free to bash me if you disagree