Yo all,
To start off this thread. I will try to be as true as it is for myself and everyone here. I will start off by telling a story of my own little journey.
2 years ago I was introduced by my friend to DYD by david deangelo. That was 2003, at that point I was busy dating 2 girls long distance, we messaged each other every weeks and I managed to date both of them at the same time a little bit intimate. After reading DYD ( which was a pretty fresh idea at the moment ), I'm pretty into it and every approach that I had was based on that book.
I try to be ****y and funny at that time and it somehow felt unnatural and I felt not too happy about it. Eventually I lost all my friends and potential good friends. What happend is that at that time I met this group of girls and I was trying to be ****y and funny the whole time and literaly ignoring them when I had nothing to say ( I used to be more chatty and would speak and enjoy any conversation ). I realized something is wrong I tried hard to impress everyone by being ****y and funny at that time.
That lasted me about 1 year and on 2004 I realized something is wrong here and I need to change, maybe I need to find a new guru on this field. I turned to david copeland and ron louis, pretty good read I must say. I realised at this point that I withheld myself too much and most of the pursuit happend in my brain and didn't dare to go out and meet HB.
Then I met this girl HB 8, we met often at the uni and I teased her at that time that she can't cook and we made a pact to cook for each other at that time and she really enjoy it we had a good time. I thought she might be a good catch, I started pursuing her asking out for movies and dinner. It turns out that she got lots of suitor, and most of them turn to be AFC some of them literally hate my presence with her and making real weird gesture. I kept my cool and try not to care about them. She works at an ice cream store and I often hesitates and don't dare to go there and just have fun for the moment with her and would arrive at fron of the store does not dare to do anything at all. Or else making real stupid comments and don't have anything to say on the phone. I realized then if she is not interested then she would not care. I gave up at that point and we don't talk much
We didn't have much contact until about 1 month ago, we studied quite a lot together ( at this point my mindset was not about getting her as my girlfriend ), boy every interaction was real nice and it's flowing while we are just having fun.
It's easier to talk when you don't have that mindset of getting her I realize. We became close friend at this point but I don't have the need to **** her.
When I gave up on her I met HB 8.5 ( during the period where we don't have much contact). HB 8.5 also work at ice cream store (I love ice cream store girls)
. We met at the stage while doing a play together, I was attracted to her at the first time we met each other, what happend is we often hang out a lot with group of friend. My friend encourage me to show my interest at her and I did.
With her, I realized that I must show my interest and willing to do the work to pursue her. I would fetch her up at the end of her work every night and get her home safely, she does not show any sign of rejection of my presence. This goes for a month or so, we hang out pretty often, and often I noticed that she would sulk whenever I approach other girls. There is some period when I appear needy and she loses interest right away.
One event that changed me a bit. On her bday party there is this one guy who has been on her butt for long time sleeps over at her place ( she stays with her sis and cousins ). She ignores that guy the whole time during the party and that guy was being a pain in the ass. YET HE STAYS OVER, at that point I exploded and got real angry over what happend under her apartment with her sister for allowing that, and stupid me !! I CALLED HER TO SAY IF ANYTHING HAPPEND I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU ... she says I know .. don't worry. My friend says that SHE IS NOT YOUR ANYTHING STOP ACTING SO PROTECTIVE. I stayed over at my friends place and sleep for only 2 hours awaiting her phone call incase anything happend.
The next day she says " DID u .. get angry at my apartment yesterday .. ?" as a student of DJ .. I lied " Nope nothing happend.. I kept my cool.."( Don't show your true emotion ). She then said " Don't Lie to me ".
She asked me out for a movie the next day but I was working at that night.
After that incident, we sort of got on and off the same time. Sometimes we had a good interaction when I felt good for some reasons ( often after I read some article that related to don juan )and sometimes real bad where I felt real needy for her attention.
With HB 8.5 it's weird and interesting to see my approach, what happend is that there is a period where we can have lots of fun and some period when she can sense that Im being needy and wanting her attention and she ignores me.
I would like ask for everybody's opinion.
I was thinking to myself just now and after reading everyone's post on this forum ( I didn't register before that ).
Is it wiser for us to give up on the whole need to know about the approach to women will at the material here ( The mystery method, DYD, bla bla )
Or is it better for us just to forget about everything here and start off cleaning our brain without all the jargon about dating game.
Boy.. Im tired.. Would love to hear some opinion
To start off this thread. I will try to be as true as it is for myself and everyone here. I will start off by telling a story of my own little journey.
2 years ago I was introduced by my friend to DYD by david deangelo. That was 2003, at that point I was busy dating 2 girls long distance, we messaged each other every weeks and I managed to date both of them at the same time a little bit intimate. After reading DYD ( which was a pretty fresh idea at the moment ), I'm pretty into it and every approach that I had was based on that book.
I try to be ****y and funny at that time and it somehow felt unnatural and I felt not too happy about it. Eventually I lost all my friends and potential good friends. What happend is that at that time I met this group of girls and I was trying to be ****y and funny the whole time and literaly ignoring them when I had nothing to say ( I used to be more chatty and would speak and enjoy any conversation ). I realized something is wrong I tried hard to impress everyone by being ****y and funny at that time.
That lasted me about 1 year and on 2004 I realized something is wrong here and I need to change, maybe I need to find a new guru on this field. I turned to david copeland and ron louis, pretty good read I must say. I realised at this point that I withheld myself too much and most of the pursuit happend in my brain and didn't dare to go out and meet HB.
Then I met this girl HB 8, we met often at the uni and I teased her at that time that she can't cook and we made a pact to cook for each other at that time and she really enjoy it we had a good time. I thought she might be a good catch, I started pursuing her asking out for movies and dinner. It turns out that she got lots of suitor, and most of them turn to be AFC some of them literally hate my presence with her and making real weird gesture. I kept my cool and try not to care about them. She works at an ice cream store and I often hesitates and don't dare to go there and just have fun for the moment with her and would arrive at fron of the store does not dare to do anything at all. Or else making real stupid comments and don't have anything to say on the phone. I realized then if she is not interested then she would not care. I gave up at that point and we don't talk much
We didn't have much contact until about 1 month ago, we studied quite a lot together ( at this point my mindset was not about getting her as my girlfriend ), boy every interaction was real nice and it's flowing while we are just having fun.
It's easier to talk when you don't have that mindset of getting her I realize. We became close friend at this point but I don't have the need to **** her.
When I gave up on her I met HB 8.5 ( during the period where we don't have much contact). HB 8.5 also work at ice cream store (I love ice cream store girls)
. We met at the stage while doing a play together, I was attracted to her at the first time we met each other, what happend is we often hang out a lot with group of friend. My friend encourage me to show my interest at her and I did.
With her, I realized that I must show my interest and willing to do the work to pursue her. I would fetch her up at the end of her work every night and get her home safely, she does not show any sign of rejection of my presence. This goes for a month or so, we hang out pretty often, and often I noticed that she would sulk whenever I approach other girls. There is some period when I appear needy and she loses interest right away.
One event that changed me a bit. On her bday party there is this one guy who has been on her butt for long time sleeps over at her place ( she stays with her sis and cousins ). She ignores that guy the whole time during the party and that guy was being a pain in the ass. YET HE STAYS OVER, at that point I exploded and got real angry over what happend under her apartment with her sister for allowing that, and stupid me !! I CALLED HER TO SAY IF ANYTHING HAPPEND I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU ... she says I know .. don't worry. My friend says that SHE IS NOT YOUR ANYTHING STOP ACTING SO PROTECTIVE. I stayed over at my friends place and sleep for only 2 hours awaiting her phone call incase anything happend.
The next day she says " DID u .. get angry at my apartment yesterday .. ?" as a student of DJ .. I lied " Nope nothing happend.. I kept my cool.."( Don't show your true emotion ). She then said " Don't Lie to me ".
She asked me out for a movie the next day but I was working at that night.
After that incident, we sort of got on and off the same time. Sometimes we had a good interaction when I felt good for some reasons ( often after I read some article that related to don juan )and sometimes real bad where I felt real needy for her attention.
With HB 8.5 it's weird and interesting to see my approach, what happend is that there is a period where we can have lots of fun and some period when she can sense that Im being needy and wanting her attention and she ignores me.
I would like ask for everybody's opinion.
I was thinking to myself just now and after reading everyone's post on this forum ( I didn't register before that ).
Is it wiser for us to give up on the whole need to know about the approach to women will at the material here ( The mystery method, DYD, bla bla )
Or is it better for us just to forget about everything here and start off cleaning our brain without all the jargon about dating game.
Boy.. Im tired.. Would love to hear some opinion