"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My Personal Standards

NSUballer

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It seems that alot of people here are only interested in sleeping with the hottest girl they can find as often as possible. theres something seriously wrong with that idea.

For me, the best thing that can ever happen is that I meet a girl that doesnt just meet my expectations but exceeds them. And I have extremely high expectations. I expect a woman to act like a lady should. No swearing like shes one of my boys, no extremely revealing clothes(except if its just me and her) has not slept with more than 5 people(preferably alot less) must be attractive in my eyes( a woman whos an 8 to me would be some of you guys 10) high moral values, character, integrity...must be smart, well spoken, sense of humor, wants children...those are just some of the things I would look for in aan ideal woman. Ive never been the type to ***** myself around just for kicks. To me getting a girl to sleep with me has never been a challenge.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Yeah, I can agree with that. This place should be for people want to boink as many women as they can find, find the optimal lady and settle down, and everything in between. There is supposed to be respect for people's individual goals, but sometimes either the horndogs take over, or the more supposedly pious use this place as an evangelizing tool.
 

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It's all up to the person who is learning this and what they want out of this...

If your coming in here to get your ideal chick good for you, but also remember you'd have to know how to attract women any way before you even meet that ideal girl.

I know for me personally having one gf isn't apart of me and doesn't fit my lifestyle. I'm a guy always on the move, looking for adventure and great experiences, these chicks that I meet come along for the ride in my world as I go on my adventures.

I'm also a sex addict so I don't want no conservative chick, I like them looking really girlie, sexy, and VERY sexual, of course I have other stuff that I like but isn't really necessary so longs she's open minded, sex freak, and adventurous then I'm most likely going to keep her around.

It really comes down to the person and what they want to gain from this.
 

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ok?
Im not getting what your thread is suppose to be telling us other than your standards are better than everyone elses.
I think everyone on here had thought and made up their standards already and it should be completely ok if they are lower than your exceedingly high expectations.
 

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NSUballer said:
It seems that alot of people here are only interested in sleeping with the hottest girl they can find as often as possible. theres something seriously wrong with that idea.

For me, the best thing that can ever happen is that I meet a girl that doesnt just meet my expectations but exceeds them. And I have extremely high expectations. I expect a woman to act like a lady should. No swearing like shes one of my boys, no extremely revealing clothes(except if its just me and her) has not slept with more than 5 people(preferably alot less) must be attractive in my eyes( a woman whos an 8 to me would be some of you guys 10) high moral values, character, integrity...must be smart, well spoken, sense of humor, wants children...those are just some of the things I would look for in aan ideal woman. Ive never been the type to ***** myself around just for kicks. To me getting a girl to sleep with me has never been a challenge.
So you wouldn't mind having a girlfriend who has been banged by 5 guys! If I dated girls who had been with other guys I would always see their faces (or what I thought they might look like) hanging over their shoulders. To each his own. As long as you can put together a few sober thoughts I am all for you being who you are on here. Best of luck :cheer:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Im not saying Im better than anyone else, I expect more from myself so I would expect more from a woman. Ive got enough experience and have seen enough to know that a really good woman isnt easy to find. Im not saying that everyone should think as I do. Its just my personal expectations. There are more than enough whor$ in this world and I personally despise them and dont associate with that kind of people. I have friends that are always taking home girls. I even did that for about 2 months. for me it was not worth it. theres no pride in being able to take a girl home and bang her when I know im definitely not the first to do it.. however I would take much pride in getting a girl that not just any guy can have. Because I know that Im not a guy that just any girl can get just because she throws her pvssy at me. And believe me alot of girls know that about me and they hate on me for it.
 

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I get the vibe that you have something to prove to the people lurking on this website, for some reason or another.
 

NSUballer

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why its only a website? Just trying to offer some insight. I dont have to prove anything to anyone except myself.
 

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It's funny that this guy is looking for a woman who can not only meet, but exceed the highest expectations ever. The hottest girl you've ever met? She is a mere "8" to this guy. She has to be perfect in every way. She has to know how to give a mind-blowing *******, but he won't date her if she's ever actually given a ******* (5 guys is the upper limit, but you want less than that? The fact that you want to ask a girl how many dudes she's been with shows how much you still need to figure out).

I love people who draw out a list of qualifications a girl has to fulfill before he will give her the honor of his romantic interest. Like that's how it works. Come back and re-read this post in 5 years and see how much of this you will still stand behind.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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meitenesrigas

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The Forms said:
It's funny that this guy is looking for a woman who can not only meet, but exceed the highest expectations ever. The hottest girl you've ever met? She is a mere "8" to this guy. She has to be perfect in every way. She has to know how to give a mind-blowing *******, but he won't date her if she's ever actually given a ******* (5 guys is the upper limit, but you want less than that? The fact that you want to ask a girl how many dudes she's been with shows how much you still need to figure out).

I love people who draw out a list of qualifications a girl has to fulfill before he will give her the honor of his romantic interest. Like that's how it works. Come back and re-read this post in 5 years and see how much of this you will still stand behind.
There are some amazingly beautiful girls out there that would die to be with him that would fit all those qualifications (many are still virgins). You won't find them in Kansas or NYC though. Get out and use your passports.
 
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