"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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My No PMO journal

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PMO stands for p0rn, mastvrbation, and orga5m

Today I visited an adult store and all the customers were men, and all of them were looking at the p0rn dvds and magazines. The vehicles in the parking lot were mostly junky vehicles yet these men were spending what little money they have on p0rn! This is a serious problem for society. I will from this moment on no longer watch p0rn and will no longer mastvrbate. These men I saw all looked tired and worn out. I imagine none of these men I saw were in a relationship. They looked so creepy! I am breaking free from these bad habit!

This thread is for myself to write about how my fight against PMO is going.

A reason to quit these habits is that they can lead to erectile dysfunction.

I read somewhere online that up to 96% of men in the United State's are addicted to p0rn!
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Great idea dude! I'll PM you and ask if you've been yanking your crank. Or I can just kill myself now.

Why do you care about tired old guys with old cars? Maybe they don't want a relationship. Why are these guys
A serious problem to society? Why were you in an adult store? I give you two weeks and you'll be eyeballing
The knot-hole in the fence.. I wish you luck.
 

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Great idea dude! I'll PM you and ask if you've been yanking your crank. Or I can just kill myself now.

Why do you care about tired old guys with old cars? Maybe they don't want a relationship. Why are these guys
A serious problem to society? Why were you in an adult store? I give you two weeks and you'll be eyeballing
The knot-hole in the fence.. I wish you luck.
These guys are not a serious problem to society, but their addictions are. Think of the lost productivity and time that is lost collectively in the United States from these bad habits!

I will use this thread to journal my successes and failures.
 
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I read somewhere online that up to 96% of men in the United State's are addicted to p0rn!
I don't think it's that much. But good for you.

The older I get, the less I find myself watching, let alone enjoying p0rn. I'm convinced it's played a part in my lack of success with women, so I've just gotten rid of it entirely and wank one when I can't handle the urge or when I'm having trouble falling asleep.
Then stop. It's that simple.

I used to watch that stuff for a ten month period in my life, then I decided to stop. It took me about another month to get my groove back with women, but I did.
 

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These guys are not a serious problem to society, but their addictions are. Think of the lost productivity and time that is lost collectively in the United States from these bad habits!
Now that's a good point. Especially if that's all a guy does.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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It's a billion dollar industry for a reason, brother.



It's not always that simple, especially for cats who started young, like the Billie Eilish example I cited above.

Please don't be a typical SS poster who thinks in black/white. There's context and nuance that can make it challenging for some people to stop - remember, the industry is extremely successful for a reason.

If every single guy had the power to stop watching porn, it wouldn't be as powerful as it is today.
You are more powerful than you think. If I can do it, you can do it too. Believe me, I'm not perfect. You can read some of my life mistakes I've made that I've posted on this forum.
 

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@Clee Torres I suppose

A question for those whom are p0rn addicted: Do you feel like watching it after sex? If not, then for how long do you take a break?

I'm thinking that one could replace such a habit with the pursuit of sex and other achievements. If not, then use your imagination instead, like thinking about a past girl you banged or a girl you wanna bang.
 

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PMO stands for p0rn, mastvrbation, and orga5m

Today I visited an adult store and all the customers were men, and all of them were looking at the p0rn dvds and magazines. The vehicles in the parking lot were mostly junky vehicles yet these men were spending what little money they have on p0rn! This is a serious problem for society. I will from this moment on no longer watch p0rn and will no longer mastvrbate. These men I saw all looked tired and worn out. I imagine none of these men I saw were in a relationship. They looked so creepy! I am breaking free from these bad habit!

This thread is for myself to write about how my fight against PMO is going.

A reason to quit these habits is that they can lead to erectile dysfunction.

I read somewhere online that up to 96% of men in the United State's are addicted to p0rn!
Porn magazines and DVDs? Looks like we've got a time traveler from 1998!
 

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Porn magazines and DVDs? Looks like we've got a time traveler from 1998!
Doesn’t make much sense when porn is all free on the internet. I hear it’s even available on my iPhone now…
Instant delivery Lingerie, cuffs, and toys is about all a store is good for these days……
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I failed today, but I will try again.

In order to motivate myself to succeed I will start an entertainment fund and give myself $1 added to the fund each day that I am successful and subtract $1 each day that I am unsuccessful starting now at $0.

Entertainment fund: $0
 
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What helps is having a male friend who is on the same journey. You guys can keep yourselves accountable. It becomes an ego competition. Porn and masturbation is an easy addiction to fall prey to. Once you stop you find that your social skills improve. You are more confident etc. But the first month you are the horniest you have ever been. The movie Don Jon is a good movie about this. Im on day 30 and it sucks but my athletic ability is great. I have much more energy etc.
 

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I failed today, but I will try again.

In order to motivate myself to succeed I will start an entertainment fund and give myself $1 added to the fund each day that I am successful and subtract $1 each day that I am unsuccessful starting now at $0.

Entertainment fund: $0
Donate the $ subtracted from the pot to a cause you don't support.
It's not an incentive if you don't lose the dollar.
 

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A reason to quit these habits is that they can lead to erectile dysfunction.
That's the most important reason. Having a functional penis is the most important of seducing a woman. We talk a lot on the forums about approaching and other game elements. All of it is meaningless without a functional penis. With male competition at an all time high and women have more options for men than ever, women have zero tolerance for things they deem as imperfections. Penis performance needs to be on point.

No PMO is one of the best things to do for your game. I do it.

Today I visited an adult store and all the customers were men, and all of them were looking at the p0rn dvds and magazines. The vehicles in the parking lot were mostly junky vehicles yet these men were spending what little money they have on p0rn! This is a serious problem for society. I will from this moment on no longer watch p0rn and will no longer mastvrbate. These men I saw all looked tired and worn out. I imagine none of these men I saw were in a relationship. They looked so creepy! I am breaking free from these bad habit!
This is like one small subset of porn consumer, possibly an older or more rural porn consumer. The typical guy in his 20s/30s watching porn is likely watching from an urban apartment that is at least adequate and he's watching on some tube site/OnlyFans.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I failed today, but I will try again.

In order to motivate myself to succeed I will start an entertainment fund and give myself $1 added to the fund each day that I am successful and subtract $1 each day that I am unsuccessful starting now at $0.

Entertainment fund: $0
I know you said that you work a lot, but if you have time try approaching women at the mall or something and see if that helps. If that doesn't report back.
 

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An alternative view. A regular tug off keeps your mind off of women completely.
I'd sooner rely on myself to get my kicks than have to kow-tow to one of them.
 

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An alternative view. A regular tug off keeps your mind off of women completely.
I'd sooner rely on myself to get my kicks than have to kow-tow to one of them.
Sexual desire is a powerful tool if you can manage it intelligently. P0rn is not the way to go; it makes you weak and submissive.
 

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Weak maybe, but submissive? You may have to explain?
Additionally you'll have to detail how letting some cream guzzling harlot into my life
will improve it any? Every time I've done it in the past it's resulted in heartache and depression
sooner or later. I'm genuinely baffled by your reply.
 
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