"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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my new fella is....

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..... so different from all the other guys i dated. This one has had a similar life journey to mine, overcame the same hurdles, same outlook on life, same aspiriations. I have never been treated so nicely by anyone at all.

Overall I would say things are going great, I just have one teeny weenie issue. He is more religious than me, and doesnt indulge in pleasures of the flesh, or tries to keep away from it as much as possible. He said to me a couple of weeks back that he werent planning to have sex with me unless he was sure I was the one he was going to marry, so I naturally thought he was gaming me, and played along with it. Now i am beginnning to think he is serious. Although we have fooled around and done "stuff" and came so close to doing the whole shabang, we resisted the urges and didnt actually go ahaed and do it. The thing is, at this moment in time i dont need the whole thing, cause the whole dating experience and the stuff we do do keeps me content for now, but i dont know how long this will last.

Has anyone been in this situation before? If when he hasa moment of weakness and i encourage him to give in to temptation, will he hate me for it afterwards?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Being Christian - I mean living by the book and dying by the book - means being the biggest AFC humanity has ever seen. I mean the Bible is about guys who suffered in their lives but went to heaven after their death.

If I were you I would run like hell and never look back.
 

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Religious people are nuts. To deny yourself your biological human desires all because some stupid book says you will go to a place and be fvcked with by a man-goat in a red jumpsuit and pitchfork is INSANE! And if you DO deny your reward is that you get to chill with an old man in the sky.

But hey, it gives you material for another thread! :cheer:
 

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You are attracted BECAUSE he is denying you. He in a twisted way is being a challenge to you. Must dudes seem to lay themselves at your feet sexually and are easily dismissed / controlled. If this guy was pushing to pound you every night I bet you'ld loose interest in a week.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You also seem to have pedistalized this guy. I'm sure in part due to your religious views which hold celibacy prior to marriage as admirible/honorable. Even if you don't actively practice, religion in your background leaves its mark.

Over and Out
 

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Why settle for someone that doesn't satisfy you when you know that in the end you are inevitably going to get bored giving each other handjobs and dump him anyways? Why not dump him now and look for someone better?
 

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I probably have peditalized this guy, but as i get to know him more, i am beginning to see his flaws, but the flaws are bearable, overall he is a decent guy, very caring and affectionate, but got the balls to stand up to me if needed.

I have no intention of dumping him yet, I mean it would be nice to get some action, but i'm not gagging for it just yet. I can wait. I think the lack of sex is probably keeping me interested in him longer, and i think on some level he probably realises that too.
 

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WhitePimp said:
Religious people are nuts. To deny yourself your biological human desires all because some stupid book says you will go to a place and be fvcked with by a man-goat in a red jumpsuit and pitchfork is INSANE!
Wow, you really know nothing about the Bible. Atheists are great, man. Condemning other people's beliefs and spewing hatred and intolerance of a religion that supposedly spreads hatred and intolerance, all the while declaring logical superiority despite the inability to prove the non-existence of God. I feel sorry for you, son. Your ignorance is overwhelming.

On topic, this thread should be in the Anything Else forum. Don Juan Discussion is designed for seducing women. Learning how to seduce men has no place on this forum, and I would argue that this type of advice has no place on this SITE.
 

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Always nice (and educational) to hear from an intelligent female DJ.
You probably dated tons of guys in your life. How would you rank this man as far as qualities & attraction? I suspect he's very high on your list. Seems you may be a bit of a perfectionist Cinn. Brad Pitt is married, Richard Gere is too old, Antonio Banderos has a security force that will not let you near him. You may have to "lower" your expectations, and just mold this excellent prospect.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Just a Shot Away said:
Wow, you really know nothing about the Bible. Atheists are great, man. Condemning other people's beliefs and spewing hatred and intolerance of a religion that supposedly spreads hatred and intolerance, all the while declaring logical superiority despite the inability to prove the non-existence of God. I feel sorry for you, son. Your ignorance is overwhelming
seing that you went off topic i will continue this by replying to it:
- even richard dawkins says you cannot 100% prove that god doesnt exist- only that it is very Improbable that he exists.
Also you cant 100% prove he does exist - and a 2000yr old book witen in the desert (and altered/distored countless times since) isnt enough proof (thers no other (repeatable) pooof.....??)


BACK ON TOPIC!!
to the OP - you two are sexually imcomatable - move on...
 

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kingsam said:
seing that you went off topic i will continue this by replying to it:
- even richard dawkins says you cannot 100% prove that god doesnt exist- only that it is very Improbable that he exists.
Also you cant 100% prove he does exist - and a 2000yr old book witen in the desert (and altered/distored countless times since) isnt enough proof (thers no other (repeatable) pooof.....??)
I feel no obligation to stay on topic. The original poster is a man posing as a woman (i.e. troll). In the unlikely event that the OP is indeed a woman, she shouldn't be posting threads anyway given her gender. Either way, this thread shouldn't even exist in the first place.

Anyway, Dawkins may admit that he can't prove his theory but the poster to whom I was replying was talking as if this was a fact. He needed a lesson in logic. Furthermore, I realize that I can't prove that God exists which is why Christianity is known as FAITH and not SCIENCE. The Bible is evidence, not proof. No denying that.
 
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