"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Firstly, heres my pic: http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=BYNRORR&key=GLK

I am white, tanned, 5'11 and a half and about 155 pounds. I dress very well...I shop @ American Eagle and The Gap and other similar stores. Essentially I take pride in my appearance and pride in myself. I am not built like a brick **** house but I do exercise every other day(mostly cardio).

OK, I have been wandering around SoSuave since November of 2004. I have done considerable reading and have been clubbing/partying 2-3 times a week and applying a lot of what I learned. It has worked quite nicely for me and this stuff definitely works. 7's and 8's are really not a problem for me and are kind of annoying now because I started working on them at the beginning, but I think I can deal with 9's and 10's right now(In fact I might be getting a 9.5 ‘dream in day’ soon time.

I goto university, live in residence and I am currently in first year. The school that I goto is pretty much all white people...Hardly any diversity.


I have really incorporated all the big posts @ SoSuave into my game...

I read Pook’s stuff on a daily basis. Also, disciple has the right idea and I have adopted a lot of his teachings(Becoming King, all 3 parts). I have some of David D’Angelo’s DYD jazz as well. And there is a lot of stuff from other parts of the forum that I have also embodied and I apologize right now if I don’t give credit for ideas.

Right now I am looking for a quality girl but I am also looking for fun, so as of right now, I am not looking for a relationship(Until I find quality).

Since I am first year, my lectures are quite big. Perhaps 400 people in each one. And since I am also majoring in English(which I excel at) the ratio of girls to guys is quite a favorable 5:1. In January at the beginning of the semester I took tweeder’s advice and I scanned the room for the hottest girl and then sat right beside her and ran game. This is the single best piece of advice!(Thanks Tweeder).

Pimpologist and Senor Fingers has helped me greatly with convo as well as D’Angelo/Pook/disciple and the ‘Holy Grail of Dating’ post for attitude.

I want to let everyone know that this website, when followed properly does produce results, damn nice ones too.

I don’t consider myself a Don Juan, I consider myself a very different and better person.

I want to thank everyone @ SoSuave. This is truly an amazing community.

Does anyone have any advice on how I should continue my journey? Feedback is appreciated!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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i think my best piece of advice is to stop shopping at American Eagle.

As you mentioned your school is predominatnly white. So I'm assuming that a large portion of the male population dresses in a similar fashion.

it might sound petty but it might be the final push you need to give you that edge. you don't want to go around looking like everyone else.

start wearing things that Tyler Durden would wear.
 
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Originally posted by Casino
i think my best piece of advice is to stop shopping at American Eagle.

As you mentioned your school is predominatnly white. So I'm assuming that a large portion of the male population dresses in a similar fashion.

it might sound petty but it might be the final push you need to give you that edge. you don't want to go around looking like everyone else.

start wearing things that Tyler Durden would wear.
Alternatively, where do you suggest I shop at?
 

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TJ Max, you should go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no seriously try walmart for starters, then you can move on up to more serious clothing outlets like Sears and Mervans.
 

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Bro i'm telling you go to ross and tjmax. You'd be surprised what cheap stuff they have around. I got polo ralph lauren jeans that are normally 60-70 bones for 20.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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find things that are unique to carve out your niche.

absolutely No "retro T shirts"

As a rule of thumb..if they sell it at target or Old Navy don't wear it.
 

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lol wut would tyler durdern wear?? haha i just realized that thats actually the kinda style im looking for.

I never found that whole "prep" thing appealing cause all these kids would wear diesel and **** and i think iit looks gay. They all like like freaking choces. And besides that style would not look with a guy rocking out all the time on his strat (im a musician and getting a degree in music). I never really felt like dressing "how i play" (lol i mean i play alot blues and metal and i dont feeling like looking goth or any of that). Punk style never appealed to me. I always liked some of the classy look, dress shoes, nice dressy jeans, nice long sleeve shirts with cool pattern. but yeah i wanted more of an edge and now that i think of it something like that.

I was also thinking of trying some dressy stuff that more colorful. You know, red and stuff. It sure would be original. I wonder somwhere if they have swade pants and a swade jacket that cherry red. That would look pretty cool done up right.
 

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Alright instead of considering how you could change your outergame right now, which could be a factor, I think you should realize how far you inner-game has come. You said it yourself, you pick up hot chicks. Hotter chicks are the next logical step in your equation.

So what if you look like everyone else? If that is your style dont change it to accomodate girls. Excel on your inner game which you obviously already have been. Keep it up. It is more important in the long run anyways.

I checked your picture out and you are probably a better looking guy than I am. I still manage to pull really hot girls. I do it through personality. My "look" is probably on par with yours and all my competitions. I remain better than my competition though since I have the brains and personality to back it up.

Since I am standing against the grain of the popular opinion on this thread if you have any doubts of my abilities shoot me a PM and I can back them up with pictures.

You dont need a wardrobe change. Especially if the way you dress is how you want to. You just need a small bit of encouragment to unleash the potential you already have. The HB10's are waiting for you. You can give them what they want. Go ahead and step up to the plate.
 
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Thanks for all the feedback. Right now, I think belividere has the right idea. Clothes are just one element in the full package and inner game is much more important at this stage of the game. Any suggestions on how to expediate the process?(that of refining my inner game)
 

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go get some POLO or Nautica ... if you get polo - get a few 'polo' style shirts but please dont pop up the collar... get some nautica sweaters, nautica t-shirts are nice and soft, they iron up nice as well ... get some nice Button downs (brands like Enyce, RocaWear.. even if you arent into the whole 'urban' thing thats who make the nicest button downs)... get some nice shoes - at least 1 white pair, and at least 1 pair of nice boots,
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Show me a few examples if possible?

Also, what sorts of steps did you DJ's take to elevate your game to a new plateau once you mastered all the groundwork.
 

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Originally posted by Happiness Renewed
what sorts of steps did you DJ's take to elevate your game to a new plateau once you mastered all the groundwork.
How women think:

After getting your appearance sorted, you need to start understanding how women think, and how they will react to certein things that u say and do...

Appearance

Now your appearance IS important, but that will only get u SO far, your way of "working" with women is that makes you successfull in the end.

Experiment with girls

So you need to experiment and talk to as many girls as possible and try different things with dirrerent women, try new techniques, ways of speaking, different kinds of kino, different ways of treating them, etc... As you should know... most women are pretty much the same when it comes to reactions from what u do/say to them... so after trying all kinds of techniques and ways of dealing with them, u should be able to be at the point where u will be able to know what to do, and when etc.

ASK!

If u have girl friends, dont be affraid to ask THEM quesitons as well about watever u might want to find out about...

Kino

A good way of "turning a girl on" is through kino.. u need to learn where to touch them and HOW to touch them so that they will want more! A good way to get kino going is to go up to a girl and tell her something like "damn girl, u look tence.. let me help u out;)" Then u start giving her a massage, and slowly slowly u will feel comfortable with her body, and she will feel comfortable with your touch, weather she knows it or not. So what i am saying, is that a good way to progress in the "game" is to start off with a massage (kino) and work your way from there.

Spending more time around women

Now... the more time u spend with women, the more you will find that you will understand them and come to know how they think etc... and if you can befriend alot of girls to a point where they can tell u everything and be totally open with you as if you were one of her chcik friendss, then u have hit the "jackpot" because THATS when women will reveal their "secrets" about women and empower you. So the more time u spend with women, the better u will come to understanding them.

When you are around women that u are not very familiar with, you need to act calm and act as if you are not moved by them.. u need to have the mindset that they are not "a hot babe" but rather just another person in your class... that will make your nervouseness etc decreace in a big way... then befriend them BEFORE hitting on them, so you will be giving them the idea that you are not just like any other guy in the class that wants to get some @ss, then once she puts her guard down, THEn u strike and go for the "kill", if u catch what i am saying. So what u are doing here is finiding a chick u wanna get with etc, BEFRIEND her, and THEN once her guard is down with you, start getting closer to her and promptly work your way to her bedroom.

Trust

One thing that will always make u a winner with a girl.. and thats getting her trust... A girl that trusts you fully is rare, but if you can get a girl to fully trust you, she is practically yours, because trust is one of the things that women value above mosts things. And to build trust, you need to be there for her when she needs someone to talk to, be a good friend to her, spend time with her, and also open up to her, to an extent. So if you can get a girl to trust u, u have 90% won the battle.

Personality

Being fun to be around also plays a big role in the interest levels of woemn in YOU... so C&F is always good to have, you need to be talkative, funny, lively, you need to do things that are attractive and fun (going out, partying, going to the beach, etc) So when a girl looks at you she wil see this guy that KNOWS HOW TO HAVE FUN too.

Women also like a guy that has a romantic side to him... to its always good to show your romantic side to a girl... A good way of doing this is inviting her over for supper, and making it a really romantic and erotic vibe/occasion (what i like is: Rose petals, roses, candles, some calm music in the backround, and creative foods)... Another thing about "romance"... try get into the discussion of "romance" with a girl, then describe to her what u would see as being a "perfect honeymoon" or "perfect date" and tell her exactly what she wants to hear... this will make her melt inside, and most women wont be able to resist the temptation of wanting to find out what it would be like to go on a date with you etc.. ( I have tried this in the past, several times... works like a charm;) )

Compliment her

Girls LOVE to get complimented... so if you KNOW that they love it, then make USE of it.... now.. i am not saying that you must compliment her all the time, no, that would be a mistake, but throwing in there odd compliment here and there is definatelly a good idea... now... Lets say u are in a class sitting next to a HB and you are unsure on how to start conversation with her.. all u have to do is simply look at her (in a way that she will SEE that you are looking at her) and when she looks at you, maintain eye contact, then look at the thing that u are going to compliment her on (eg: Her smile after something funny was said in the class etc) then look her in the eye's again and say something like "u have a beautifull smile" .. she will probably reply with something like "thanx" (she will probably be blushing at this point too) then u say something like "I'm sure others have told you that in the past;)" then u go to say.. well anyways.. I'm (your-name), You think i cold get your number and maybe we could meet up after school sometime? and u can bring your smile with you;)" (notice how u are being funny, using C&F, complimenting her which makes her feel good, and coming out as being confident)... At this point she should say "ok, why not" or something of that sort, then u get her number, and u are set... If you are not ready to make SUCH a fast approach, then you can start off with just starting a normall convo with her asking her something in regards to the class or something, then ask for her number "in case u needed to spk to her about "class" laterz on" (when u ask her for her number in this case, u say something like " so whats your number? i'll call you later on if i still need help with this section" <--- u say this in a sarcastic manner so she KNOWS that you wont be calling her about class) .. both approaches work (i spk from experiance) so try it out and see how it goes.

Anyways... i hope that this benefited you and i look forward to hearing of your progresses in the near future...


Laterz...
 
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Thanks AeQ|TaS,

This is a dynamite summary of what needs to be done. Its bascially the gist of what I have been doing thus far, AeQ|TaS has provided new insight to alot of it though...very helpful.

Only problem is trust...Ive had alot of bad experiences and trust is something that will definately take a loooong time for a girl to earn my trust.

That smile line is ****in gold...but when I use it I will probably drop the smile line then introduce myself and have small talk for a class or 2 then ask for her number...
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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yes... but...

You are right about the trust aspect... this DOES take a long time to "earn", but you HAVE to start from somewhere, and within time, u WILL "earn" her trust;) At the moment about 90% of all the girls that i a friendly with AND that i have been with almost trsut me fully, iIF not fully. Its a process, but its achieveable.. dont let the amount of time that it takes to EARN the trust let u down or put u off trying to get it from women... just strive for it, and it shall be yours, sooner or later.

Goodluck


Laterz...
 

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That's great to see positive posts by guys actually learning things. Mad props Happiness Renewed!

The only advice I think could benefit you is to check out www.fastseduction.com There's some crazy knowledge on there and a some cool guys really into learning. It took me to another level in understanding game. Just be careful not to get overwhelmed in theory and techniques. If you're already doing well without it, there's no need to tack on excess crap. Keep it simple. It's good to focus on one thing at a time. But you seem like you've got the hang of it and most importantly, you're out learning in the field!
 
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